Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Chasbo00 wrote:

PackinLRdrvr wrote: You also can't have a Driver's license from two different states.

What law says I can't have a driver's license from two different states?

I don't have the laws or legal musings on the topic in front of me, I'm just stating on what happened to me a couple of months ago. I was told by the VDMV I couldn't have a Driver's licence from another state (Florida) and a Virginia Driver's license. I was also told I couldn't have a Virginia ID card. I'm sure I could have pursued the issue further and see if the VDMV was telling me to the letter of the law but everything I read on the application confirmed what the woman told me so I went with it. 30 days later I was eligible to buy a handgun with my newly issued Virginia DL and my Pilot's license showing the same address.

Just my story. YMMV.

chfaunce wrote:Citation from a VSP source, please?

Ha! It's a verbal request, not an order. They know they have no authority to require rejection of the IDs, they just don't want them to be used.

You are familiar with the concepts of "not leaving a paper trail" and "plausible deniablity"?

YuDanJa wrote:

user wrote:Btw, as to the OP's issue, the guy with the out of state license can use that license as proof of identity, as long as he also presents evidence of residency in Virginia at the time of the purchase. For BATFE regulations, you can be a resident of more than one state, as long as you are "actually residing" in the state in which the purchase is made at the time of purchase. I live in both Virginia and West Virginia, so while I'm living in West-by-Gawd, I use my Va. OL and property tax receipts as evidence of eligibility to buy guns there.

So, there actually is a good chance my co-worker can walk out of there with a handgun? I think his documents can prove his is residing in VA. He'll have his apartment lease agreement and utility bills. I'm glad I didn't place any bets with this co-worker. ....

NO. I was talking about BATFE regulations. Federal law provides that the required background check can go through the feds, directly, which is what W.Va. does, or through a designated state agency. In Virginia, that's the Department of Criminal Justice Services. Virginia law is more restrictive than federal law. In Virginia, your photo-id must be issued by Virginia or the U.S. DoD - a U.S. passport will not meet the Virginia standard. A "walker's permit" photo-id will do, if the person can't or won't drive; there are other state agencies that produce photo-id cards - for example if one is an employee of a school system that does that. However, the address listed on the photo id (there has to be one) must match the documentation used to prove residency. Va. Code sxn 18.2-308.2:2.

In fact, attempting to purchase a handgun in Virginia when one has reason to know that he is ineligible to do so is a crime and is probably looking at up to five years in the state penitentiary. I suggest your friend go get a Virginia driver's license.

YuDanJa wrote: 1. I do remember having a handgun transferred through a private FFL within 60 days of the date I was issued a VA driver’s license. I had no clue there was the requirement the Drivers License had to be at least 60 days old...but, I was able to walk out with the gun. I’m looking at my receipt and the date my driver’s license was issued…only 49 days.

I was told 30, not 60, days by an FFL. Unless it's an update/move within state/reissued DL.

Jim

What about residing in VA but having property in another state and having a license there?
You can get a resident permit in VA w/o a VA driver's license.

I have the perfect answer.

1) Go with him to the show.
2) Find the 1st police officer you see and explain how he hasn't changed the license over yet.
3) Let the officer write him a summons.
4) Use the summons as proof of ID

ProShooter wrote:I have the perfect answer.

1) Go with him to the show.
2) Find the 1st police officer you see and explain how he hasn't changed the license over yet.
3) Let the officer write him a summons.
4) Use the summons as proof of ID

ProShooter wrote:I have the perfect answer.

1) Go with him to the show.
2) Find the 1st police officer you see and explain how he hasn't changed the license over yet.
3) Let the officer write him a summons.
4) Use the summons as proof of ID

That could actually work. If the officer notes the address and the guy has a pic ID to go with it. He could use his old DL. Only problem is dealers have the option to refuse service. And, I guess to establish residency the address doesnt matter, only the summons.