Forest man shoots self
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zephyp
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Re: Forest man shoots self
Wow, after reading all this I'm ashamed to admit that I sometimes pack a .25 incher in my drawers - and without any protection er uh holster either...
No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...
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SgtBill
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Re: Forest man shoots self
Yep, Young said something about you haveing a little .25 incher in your pant's.
LOL
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OakRidgeStars
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Re: Forest man shoots self
That's waaaaaay tooooo much information 
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OakRidgeStars
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Re: Forest man shoots self
Back on topic 
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Troubling Mixture of Guns, Bars
http://www2.newsadvance.com/news/2010/s ... ar-507417/
http://tinyurl.com/24q9vly
Troubling Mixture of Guns, Bars
It was bound to happen. The result, fortunately, was not as serious as it could have been.
The mixture of guns and alcohol exploded at a Lynchburg restaurant Saturday night when a customer accidentally shot himself in the thigh with a concealed weapon. He faces three misdemeanor charges, according to Lynchburg police, including recklessly handling a firearm, willfully discharging a firearm in the city of Lynchburg and carrying a concealed handgun in a restaurant after consuming alcohol.
Police said the Forest man, who was treated and released at the hospital, did have a concealed weapon permit. But even with such a permit, those carrying concealed weapons in a bar or restaurant are not allowed to consume alcohol.
After years of controversy over the issue of guns and bars, the General Assembly earlier this year approved legislation — and Gov. Bob McDonnell signed it — that allows those with concealed weapons permits to carry guns into bars.
The bill never has made any sense.
Why? Because the mixture of alcohol with firearms is a deadly one.
Guns and alcohol, plainly and simply, don’t mix.
The Virginia Senate sought to include a dash of safety in the bill by adding a measure that would make it a misdemeanor offense to consume alcohol in a bar or restaurant while carrying a concealed weapon. That led to a riddle around Capitol Square in Richmond about how you can spot the guy at the bar carrying a concealed weapon. He’s the one drinking club soda.
The customer at Waterstone Pizza was not drinking club soda. A bartender said he came in, “filled up his mug and placed it on the bar. The next thing you know, you hear a loud bang. I thought it was a champagne bottle at first,” she said.
There’s still a hole in the tile where the bullet pierced the floor after being discharged from the weapon carried in his front pants pocket.
Restaurant owners had lobbied against allowing concealed weapons in their bars because they didn’t want to have to deal with the potential for added danger in their establishments. They succeeded in getting a measure in the law that allows private restaurants to ban concealed weapons if they want.
Waterstone Pizza on Jefferson Street made its no-gun policy clear before the concealed weapons law became effective. Signs are posted outside the restaurant’s door making it clear that guns — concealed or otherwise — are not allowed inside.
“I don’t think that alcohol and guns mix. I think it’s a dangerous combination,” Thomas Edgerton, general manager of the restaurant, told a local television station.
The incident raises anew the question of just why someone has to carry a weapon into a bar, even if he or she has a concealed weapons permit.
It could hardly be much of an inconvenience for those carrying concealed weapons to leave the weapon in the glove box of his vehicle before entering a bar or restaurant.
Really, it’s no trouble. Certainly not compared with the trouble that could result if the weapon were pulled and fired in the bar — or even accidentally discharged in the bar, as was the case on Jefferson Street last Saturday night.
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Troubling Mixture of Guns, Bars
http://www2.newsadvance.com/news/2010/s ... ar-507417/
http://tinyurl.com/24q9vly
Troubling Mixture of Guns, Bars
It was bound to happen. The result, fortunately, was not as serious as it could have been.
The mixture of guns and alcohol exploded at a Lynchburg restaurant Saturday night when a customer accidentally shot himself in the thigh with a concealed weapon. He faces three misdemeanor charges, according to Lynchburg police, including recklessly handling a firearm, willfully discharging a firearm in the city of Lynchburg and carrying a concealed handgun in a restaurant after consuming alcohol.
Police said the Forest man, who was treated and released at the hospital, did have a concealed weapon permit. But even with such a permit, those carrying concealed weapons in a bar or restaurant are not allowed to consume alcohol.
After years of controversy over the issue of guns and bars, the General Assembly earlier this year approved legislation — and Gov. Bob McDonnell signed it — that allows those with concealed weapons permits to carry guns into bars.
The bill never has made any sense.
Why? Because the mixture of alcohol with firearms is a deadly one.
Guns and alcohol, plainly and simply, don’t mix.
The Virginia Senate sought to include a dash of safety in the bill by adding a measure that would make it a misdemeanor offense to consume alcohol in a bar or restaurant while carrying a concealed weapon. That led to a riddle around Capitol Square in Richmond about how you can spot the guy at the bar carrying a concealed weapon. He’s the one drinking club soda.
The customer at Waterstone Pizza was not drinking club soda. A bartender said he came in, “filled up his mug and placed it on the bar. The next thing you know, you hear a loud bang. I thought it was a champagne bottle at first,” she said.
There’s still a hole in the tile where the bullet pierced the floor after being discharged from the weapon carried in his front pants pocket.
Restaurant owners had lobbied against allowing concealed weapons in their bars because they didn’t want to have to deal with the potential for added danger in their establishments. They succeeded in getting a measure in the law that allows private restaurants to ban concealed weapons if they want.
Waterstone Pizza on Jefferson Street made its no-gun policy clear before the concealed weapons law became effective. Signs are posted outside the restaurant’s door making it clear that guns — concealed or otherwise — are not allowed inside.
“I don’t think that alcohol and guns mix. I think it’s a dangerous combination,” Thomas Edgerton, general manager of the restaurant, told a local television station.
The incident raises anew the question of just why someone has to carry a weapon into a bar, even if he or she has a concealed weapons permit.
It could hardly be much of an inconvenience for those carrying concealed weapons to leave the weapon in the glove box of his vehicle before entering a bar or restaurant.
Really, it’s no trouble. Certainly not compared with the trouble that could result if the weapon were pulled and fired in the bar — or even accidentally discharged in the bar, as was the case on Jefferson Street last Saturday night.
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Re: Forest man shoots self
That's right, we're ok with you having a couple of drinks and driving home, just leave your gun in the car. I mean, as long as nobody gets hurt inside the restaurant, err bar, right?OakRidgeStars wrote:
“I don’t think that alcohol and guns mix. I think it’s a dangerous combination,” Thomas Edgerton, general manager of the restaurant, told a local television station.
The incident raises anew the question of just why someone has to carry a weapon into a bar, even if he or she has a concealed weapons permit.
It could hardly be much of an inconvenience for those carrying concealed weapons to leave the weapon in the glove box of his vehicle before entering a bar or restaurant.
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Re: Forest man shoots self
Good grief, I was really hopeful that this kind of stupidity simply wouldn't occur, at least not so soon after the change in the law took effect. But the writer and the restaurant owner who was quoted are both missing the point; it's not exactly that guns and alcohol are the problem, it's that guns and stupidity will ALWAYS be a dangerous combination. Stupidity was certainly on exhibit in this instance, in SO many ways. Stupid to carry a POS weapon that either couldn't be safed properly or just as stupidly wasn't safed; Stupid to be playing pocket pool with a dangerous 'toy' in his pocket, and REALLY stupid to be consuming alcohol while carrying in clear defiance of the law as written and modified. The problem is that this kind of stupid to the core is dangerous 24/7, and has the potential to give all responsible CCW permit holders (and the statistics would seem to include 99.995 % of us in that category) a black eye, figuratively speaking.
I hope that any and all of the organizations that fought so hard to have the law modified to allow CC in establishments that serve alcohol will stand up and advocate that this moron be prosecuted as harshly as the law allows. And I guess I need to read up on it here on the forum, but it certainly seems reasonable that this brainiac forfeit his CCW permit; I sure as hell don't want to be waiting a a light next to him in my truck when he goes to scratch and pops a round through his door or window, or waiting in line with him at the 7-11 or anywhere else for that matter.
I hope that any and all of the organizations that fought so hard to have the law modified to allow CC in establishments that serve alcohol will stand up and advocate that this moron be prosecuted as harshly as the law allows. And I guess I need to read up on it here on the forum, but it certainly seems reasonable that this brainiac forfeit his CCW permit; I sure as hell don't want to be waiting a a light next to him in my truck when he goes to scratch and pops a round through his door or window, or waiting in line with him at the 7-11 or anywhere else for that matter.