Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 17:52:56
No raised seal on mine either, and no color. Just black & white text on el cheapo business card stock. I could copy and reprint this puppy all day.
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Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:11:20
Just realized the perforations give my original away. No raised seal though. Duplicable if one is slightly motivated.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:21:05
Arlington won't laminate it for you, but there's a Kinkos across the street. The person at the courthouse pointed them out for me. I didn't laminate my old one and it did not wear well in my wallet, which is where I always carry it.
The clerk signed the permit in blue ink, which may or may not copy well depending on your copier. No raised anything on it, but you can see the perforations with a magnifier.
The clerk signed the permit in blue ink, which may or may not copy well depending on your copier. No raised anything on it, but you can see the perforations with a magnifier.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Thu, 05 Aug 2010 04:32:03
I dont think raised seal orcopy has anything to do with it. All they have to do is call it in. The only issue with this is if its brand spanking new it might not be in the database...
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 22:06:54
That's one more reason why I like the Texas permit...it's hard plastic just lice a DL with photo and everything.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 22:17:47
Florida has a nice one as well.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Sat, 14 Aug 2010 22:49:44
What's the benefit of a nice card? It just costs more to make IMO. When my friend saw it and commented, I told him I was glad they weren't spending money on a nice card, given that the first thing done when handed to an officer is an electronic check.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 01:58:53
The plain paper is susceptible to damage far more easily than a more modern credit-card/driver's license-style card is. I had a dealer doodle on mine before I got it laminated.t33j wrote:What's the benefit of a nice card? It just costs more to make IMO. When my friend saw it and commented, I told him I was glad they weren't spending money on a nice card, given that the first thing done when handed to an officer is an electronic check.
I think the Pennsylvania system is fairly good at handling this. There's the state-mandated paper license issued at state-mandated cost, and then local jurisdictions can offer a nicer, more durable version at a higher cost if the applicant wants it. It's a decent compromise.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:50:17
Some have raised seal...some do not....and yet:
How can the seal be optional?Va Code 18.2-308(H) wrote:
H. The permit to carry a concealed handgun shall specify only the following information: name, address, date of birth, gender, height, weight, color of hair, color of eyes, and signature of the permittee; the signature of the judge issuing the permit, of the clerk of court who has been authorized to sign such permits by the issuing judge, or of the clerk of court who has been authorized to issue such permits pursuant to subsection D; the date of issuance; and the expiration date. The permit to carry a concealed handgun shall be no larger than two inches wide by three and one-fourth inches long and shall be of a uniform style prescribed by the Department of State Police. The person issued the permit shall have such permit on his person at all times during which he is carrying a concealed handgun and shall display the permit and a photo-identification issued by a government agency of the Commonwealth or by the United States Department of Defense or United States State Department (passport) upon demand by a law-enforcement officer.
The thing with this is there absolutely nothing in PA law that allows for this increased fee "option". By the end of this year they will all have switched to a "teslin" style...and all sheriffs must charge the state mandated fee. Downside to this switch, is that non-resident applicants will have to apply in person.Diomed wrote:t33j wrote:
I think the Pennsylvania system is fairly good at handling this. There's the state-mandated paper license issued at state-mandated cost, and then local jurisdictions can offer a nicer, more durable version at a higher cost if the applicant wants it. It's a decent compromise.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:53:19
I may have the raised seal, but after lamination it is difficult to see. Yet, if you look at the back of the chp then you can see the indentation of the seal.
I also see little benefit in a 'nicer' card (+1 it probably just adds to the cost). Again, if you need to explain to LEO that you have chp, they could always run it. BTW you have to show your drivers license or state ID which should ensure your identification. So, I like the relatively inexpensive cost and the way the laws are moving (in favor of pro-gun) in VA.
I also see little benefit in a 'nicer' card (+1 it probably just adds to the cost). Again, if you need to explain to LEO that you have chp, they could always run it. BTW you have to show your drivers license or state ID which should ensure your identification. So, I like the relatively inexpensive cost and the way the laws are moving (in favor of pro-gun) in VA.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 13:56:35
I'd prefer no extra ID at all. I don't have a separate motorcycle license, I just have a little "M" on the current one. Of course, I'd perfer over that Constitutional Carrry.baz wrote:I may have the raised seal, but after lamination it is difficult to see. Yet, if you look at the back of the chp then you can see the indentation of the seal.
I also see little benefit in a 'nicer' card (+1 it probably just adds to the cost). Again, if you need to explain to LEO that you have chp, they could always run it. BTW you have to show your drivers license or state ID which should ensure your identification. So, I like the relatively inexpensive cost and the way the laws are moving (in favor of pro-gun) in VA.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 04:23:16
+1 Sounds like a good idea to me (both of them).gunderwood wrote:I'd prefer no extra ID at all. I don't have a separate motorcycle license, I just have a little "M" on the current one. Of course, I'd perfer over that Constitutional Carrry.baz wrote:I may have the raised seal, but after lamination it is difficult to see. Yet, if you look at the back of the chp then you can see the indentation of the seal.
I also see little benefit in a 'nicer' card (+1 it probably just adds to the cost). Again, if you need to explain to LEO that you have chp, they could always run it. BTW you have to show your drivers license or state ID which should ensure your identification. So, I like the relatively inexpensive cost and the way the laws are moving (in favor of pro-gun) in VA.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:45:21
laminated and in my wallet with my drivers licence 
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:43:44
The benefit of nice card from Texas is that I, as a TX CHL holder, can skip the NICS check when buying there. Texas permitting process is approved by ATF to satisfy the NICS requirements (http://www.atf.gov/publications/downloa ... _chart.pdf) So pick out a gun, fill out a 4473, make a copy of CHL card, pay some money, out the door with gun in hand. No waiting for NICS call-in and approval.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:50:38
Even so, you'd still have to deal with the VSP check here
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:28:53
no they can't. state law is $25 for the ltcf, any charge over that is illegal.Diomed wrote:
I think the Pennsylvania system is fairly good at handling this. There's the state-mandated paper license issued at state-mandated cost, and then local jurisdictions can offer a nicer, more durable version at a higher cost if the applicant wants it. It's a decent compromise.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:28:43
My understanding is that they charge the mandated amount for the mandated LTCF, thus complying with the law. If the applicant wants a nicer one (credit card style) they have the option of paying more.cigarmanva wrote:no they can't. state law is $25 for the ltcf, any charge over that is illegal.Diomed wrote:
I think the Pennsylvania system is fairly good at handling this. There's the state-mandated paper license issued at state-mandated cost, and then local jurisdictions can offer a nicer, more durable version at a higher cost if the applicant wants it. It's a decent compromise.
This is just what people in-state say. Don't shoot the messenger.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:59:44
The issue is that the license must be uniform as designed by the PSP. Any alternate version of the license is not allowed by law, as such an increased fee for an unapproved version can not be legal.Diomed wrote:My understanding is that they charge the mandated amount for the mandated LTCF, thus complying with the law. If the applicant wants a nicer one (credit card style) they have the option of paying more.cigarmanva wrote:no they can't. state law is $25 for the ltcf, any charge over that is illegal.Diomed wrote:
I think the Pennsylvania system is fairly good at handling this. There's the state-mandated paper license issued at state-mandated cost, and then local jurisdictions can offer a nicer, more durable version at a higher cost if the applicant wants it. It's a decent compromise.
This is just what people in-state say. Don't shoot the messenger.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 17:58:53
Mine has the Seal of Virginia on the back, but it's not raised.
Re: Your concealed carry permit
Posted: Sat, 06 Nov 2010 18:14:50
Scanned it as an image, first, very high resolution. Then laminated - Staples did it for me for the cost of the film.