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As always, I don't trust the Left Wing Main Stream Media which includes most all the big name outlets; especially on matters related to guns, race, police and crimes - not to mention politics. So I often wait for the other shoe to drop. Appears that the deceased DID NOT have a concealed carry permit. His weapon is said to have been resting on his thigh but mostly concealed under his shirt tail. The cop is said to have lamented that 'told him not to reach for it'. He appeared to match a general description of an armed robbery suspect. There is a report that he claimed on his Facebook page to be a gang member.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/201 ... oting.html
http://iotwreport.com/blmleftist-philan ... ing-apart/

Wait for all the facts to be sorted out and don't count on the true facts being found by MSM "journalists".

Interesting

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Another fraud ran up the flag pole by BLM, Jackson, Sharpton et al. These worms should be charged for inciting the violence against LEO's. The media is morally banktrupt. They contribute to this crap dramatically by burying the stories that don't fit their agendas.

All of the big name stories in the last few years that have stirred up the controversy...... Trayvon Martin..... wow. Please, he was a thug, & played stupid games. He won a stupid prize. That one especially bothered me because the media came up with a new moniker. "White Hispanic" They were upset Zimmerman didn't look like opey taylor, & totally ignored the fact that Trayvon was a thug, & attacked him. I especially liked the way they ignored the gangster posts on his facebook, & put up pics of an innocent 12yr old......

Michael Brown.....C'mon... all that hands up don't shoot crap..!! Basically what started BLM, & it was all BS...! Another thug playing stupid games.

Both of these recent shootings...... Thugs playing stupid games. They win stupid prizes. Yet, before the facts even come out you have Jackson running his lie machine, inciting BS. BLM has always called for violence against Cops, plenty of vids out there showing such.

It's all BS. Makes me sick. The media is morally banktrupt in the way they sensationalize, & give fuel to these fires....

*** Lavish Reynolds said they were pulled over for a broken tail light and it wasn't really broken << This does not match what the officer indicates as the reason for the stopping of the vehicle - she had to make it up as there wasn't time hear it from someone else -- only Lavish Reynolds speaks of the broken tail light

The possible dispatch audio has an officer saying, “I’m going to stop a car. I’m going to check IDs. I have reason to pull it over.”
Listen here

Said he had a CWP and was reaching for his drivers license, registration and proof of insurance

Video by Lavish Reynolds begins immediately after the shooting << she seemed more concerned with getting her face in the video than her boyfriend/fiance or the police

Description of his flared nostrils fits many blacks.

The image of the guy robbing the store and Philando Castile are not the same person -- Philando has a beard and the guy in the store only a goatee

Gun permit:

The officer’s lawyer told the Association Press that he was reacting to Castile’s gun, not his race, USA Today said; police said previously that Castile had a gun. Castile’s girlfriend, Lavish Reynolds, said they were stopped for a broken taillight they didn’t have and that Castile told the officer he was armed and had a gun permit. The Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that Castile did have a valid gun permit from Hennepin County (some on the Internet have used a Ramsey County Sheriff’s Department Tweet on Castile not applying for a permit through that county as evidence he didn’t have one; the Star Tribune, however, cites a source, in reporting that he obtained one through another county, while living in Robbinsdale, MN).

As someone pointed out he did not have to announce that he had a permit and more importantly had a gun

Possible gun:

As for the gun permit, the Ramsey County Sheriff’s Department Tweeted that Castile did not apply for a permit to carry a gun in Ramsey County but cautioned he might have received one in another county. Minneapolis/St. Paul is in Ramsey County. However, the Minneapolis Star Tribune reported that “Philando Castile had a valid permit to carry a gun when he was shot and killed by a St. Anthony police officer, a source confirmed to the Star Tribune Friday.” The newspaper said the permit was issued to Castile when he lived in Robbinsdale, MN, which is in Hennepin County.

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/philando- ... tory-arre/

Castile Had At Least 55 Minnesota Traffic Violations On His Record << does not appear to be a very serious criminal -- but why wasn't his vehicle taken from him or jailed for many multiple convictions?

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/philando- ... s-diamond/


When situations like this occur, no matter who is at fault, it eradicates any progress we may have made toward reducing racial issues -- very sad.

Maybe you saw it already, but I was busy all day.
A nice article in my opinion:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-1 ... tting-shot
We are approaching the center of the whirlpool, and things are visibly accelerating.

That "gun" could easily be a smartphone with that crappy picture.

One thing that horrified me if that it seems that MN has no method of checking for a valid carry permit it her than contacting the issuing county and they check their records. WTF?

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FYI.. the MN equivalent of this thread...

http://www.mnguntalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=56674

my take on the stop and video. if anyone cares. Firstly the lady seems way too calm after her bf was just shot by police. She cares more about getting this posted on facebook than helping her bf. Also if you listen to her account of the events, she said you told him to get his id, then he told you he had a gun. That seems to me to say that he was told to present his id and as he was reaching for it he told the cop he had a gun......big mistake......the cop said he told the guy not to reach for it......he obviously didn't listen so he was shot........

anxiously awaiting the truth to come out.

I personally believe there is "White Privledge" -- it does exist. It will continue to exist as long as we the ability to see -- literally have vision.

Color provides a distinction of people. It allows us (right or wrong) to categorize people into groups.

We become conditioned to like or dislike peoples actions. Seeing negative actions repeatedly by a group is how we form negatives against a group.

My experience has been that we all operate within a band of acceptable actions. When someone steps outside this band of acceptance is when we form negative opinions and the action becomes tied to the category of individuals. Negative actions will stick with a person a long time.

Additionally there doesn't seem to be any admission to wrong-doings. If you break the law -- you broke the law. But if you break the law and want others to think you are somehow above and beyond those laws you will end up in trouble.

I do not see any solution to racism other than for people to stay within the boundaries of acceptance. To change society it will take a long time.