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Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:41:37
by skeeterss0
This is the best forum I know of.
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 12:54:58
by SeniorXJ
Anyone recommend Hi-point Firearms?
I've always wanted to pick up one of there 45cal 4595ts Carbines with some goodies!!
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 13:38:19
by MarcSpaz
Yea, they are great for sending rounds down range, but have zero expectation of it saving your life if/when needed.
I have two friends with hi-points and my brother does too. All 3 complain about jams and fail to feed / fail to fire. My brother said no less often than every two mags.
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 17:02:56
by SeniorXJ
That may be true for there handguns or other, but i've heard the complete opposite for there carbines that seem to pass torture tests with flying colors... agree?
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 18:30:48
by trailrunner
My friend has a Hi Point carbine. When I shot it, it worked flawlessly, and he said that it had been reliable, but it felt like junk to me and I would never buy one. But that's just my opinion.
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 20:14:08
by Chasbo00
Someone said Hi-Point...
I heard about a guy who fired a Hi Point, which blew up. The shrapnel killed his whole family, the bullet ricocheted and killed his dog, and then sparks from the ricochet burned his house down, and then the shell casing landed on a voting machine and registered a vote for the political party he disagreed with. Yep, true story.
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 21:11:52
by MarcSpaz
SeniorXJ wrote:That may be true for there handguns or other, but i've heard the complete opposite for there carbines that seem to pass torture tests with flying colors... agree?
Haven't heard about any testing.
Of the hi point owners I do know that have there 9mm carbine, I have not heard any complaints. I have fire 2 of them personally. For a handgun round out of a low price point weapon, it seemed pretty good. I fired about 100 rounds total through the two of them. If I was on a "cup of soup" budget. I would buy one.
No way am I buying the pistol. The lifetime warranty is worthless if you're dead.
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Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 21:26:46
by MarcSpaz
Chasbo00 wrote:Someone said Hi-Point...
I heard about a guy who fired a Hi Point, which blew up. The shrapnel killed his whole family, the bullet ricocheted and killed his dog, and then sparks from the ricochet burned his house down, and then the shell casing landed on a voting machine and registered a vote for the political party he disagreed with. Yep, true story.

Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 21:42:42
by SHMIV
Ha. I've heard that story, before. It must be true.
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Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 21:53:56
by MarcSpaz
The story would end better if it went... "and that was the 'hi-point' of his day." LOL
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 21:55:07
by SHMIV
LMAO. Clever.
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Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:06:14
by SeniorXJ
Chasbo00 wrote:Someone said Hi-Point...
I heard about a guy who fired a Hi Point, which blew up. The shrapnel killed his whole family, the bullet ricocheted and killed his dog, and then sparks from the ricochet burned his house down, and then the shell casing landed on a voting machine and registered a vote for the political party he disagreed with. Yep, true story.
!!!!!!LMFAO!!!!!!
(& yes I get your point & its a good one!)
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Sat, 25 Oct 2014 18:50:25
by Chasbo00
In addition to Hi-Points, there are plenty of handguns marketed as inexpensive alternatives. Don't care for them either. I go by this old axiom:
Good guns are not cheap, and cheap guns are not good.
If you have limited funds, consider a second hand good gun.
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 10:53:35
by SeniorXJ
I'm highly starting to eye ball the "Smith & Wesson SD9 VE 9mm" & which can be found new for under $400, or the "Ruger SR9C 9mm" which is a bit over $400 brand new & both have everything I'm after!!!
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 11:16:48
by Chasbo00
SeniorXJ wrote:I'm highly starting to eye ball the "Smith & Wesson SD9 VE 9mm" & which can be found new for under $400,
The SD9 sells for just over a hundred dollars less than a standard M&P 9mm. The M&P is universally regarded as as a solid and highly reliable pistol. I wonder what Smith and Wesson "cut out" or changed to shave a little more than a hundred dollars from the retail cost of the M&P 9mm to end up with the SD9 VE 9mm? Personally, I would find a way to get a few more bucks together and buy an M&P rather than a SD.
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 12:20:10
by trailrunner
Chasbo00 wrote:
The SD9 sells for just over a hundred dollars less than a standard M&P 9mm. The M&P is universally regarded as as a solid and highly reliable pistol. I wonder what Smith and Wesson "cut out" or changed to shave a little more than a hundred dollars from the retail cost of the M&P 9mm to end up with the SD9 VE 9mm? Personally, I would find a way to get a few more bucks together and buy an M&P rather than a SD.
I agree with this. The M&P is a quality gun. If someone took away all my Glocks and told me that I could only use an M&P, I'd be perfectly content.
I also agree with the advice to look into a good quality used gun. On Friday I saw a used FN FNS with night sights but very little use for sale at my LGS, so I snagged it.
Buds has M&Ps for $425-450 with free shipping. Add $25 for FFL fee, and you're well under $500.
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:42:31
by SeniorXJ
The price for the SD9c was quoted off of there website & the only thing stopping me from getting an M&P is whether I want full or compact.
I'm also always gonna concider looking for good quality used guns.
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:27:04
by SeniorXJ
Sorry, S&W SR9c
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:52:56
by SeniorXJ
Thought I posted this already but;
I know S&W makes a spring kit that reduces the pull from 10 to 7, but with that aside, would it be worth the $ of doing a trigger job?
Re: First Time Handgun Buyers Advice:
Posted: Mon, 27 Oct 2014 15:57:12
by SeniorXJ
A lot of M&P talk & no Ruger which was my 2nd pick.
So how would the Ruger 9e, SR9, or SR9c stack up?