Opinions on the 45-70 and 308 cartridge

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Alright, here she is. I'll upload more later but it sucks sending pictures from my phone to my email over a 1G connection.



I drove to charles city today to shoot the gun but they're closed until hunting season opens. I was beyond pissed. I got a shooting rest for it, my cousin bought .223 for his Handi Rifle among other things.. But my friend's father owns a farm out past west point so when he gets a day off I'll be able to fire it.

[Snakester]

SWeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeT ! Let us know how it shoots , my next rifle is going to be a Savage Stainless .223 .I've been looking.

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Anyone who's fired a 30-06, is my cousin correct in assuming it'll kick my butt? I'm 6'2, 285 lbs. The gun itself is surprisingly light. The shipping weight was 13 lbs and the gun itself can't weight more than 8-9 lbs.

My cousin is most likely correct in saying it is cheap polymer and the stock itself is hollow. We installed the bolt and noticed when it was pulled out it had play in it and could be "rattled" around. I'm assuming after I break it in the gasses & heat will make the bolt itself expand slightly. Other than that it looks like a solid gun, Both my FFL dealer and my friends father said it's a good buy.

[Snakester]

At 6'2 -285.....That .06 is going to feel like a .22 ...You are going to love it. I shot my Ruger American .06 56 rds. today . My wife has shot it 40 rds. at a time. We usually shoot 150 g. Remington . I have shot a Savage like yours in .243 ....Great gun.

[jdonovan]

Anyone who's fired a 30-06, is my cousin correct in assuming it'll kick my butt?

Depends on your recoil sensitivity. 30-06 is nearing the upper edge of what the average hunter considers the max they would like to fire repeatedly. If you've been shooting 243's and saying OW!, well you may not like the -06 much. If you've been shooting 308 and thinking 'mouse gun' you should be OK.

The gun itself is surprisingly light. The shipping weight was 13 lbs and the gun itself can't weight more than 8-9 lbs.

8-9 is NOT light. Thats average, to perhaps slightly heavy. 7-7.5 is about the norm for a 22" hunting rifle, before optics. A light gun is in the 5.5-6.5 range.

My cousin is most likely correct in saying it is cheap polymer and the stock itself is hollow.

Likely true as almost all of them are.

We installed the bolt and noticed when it was pulled out it had play in it and could be "rattled" around. I'm assuming after I break it in the gasses & heat will make the bolt itself expand slightly.

The looseness, I'm assuming you are talking about is when the bolt is open, and fully pulled to the rear? If so, that isn't going to go away. In fact as you open and close the bolt and the parts wear, its going to get worse. All bolt guns do this to some degree. The higher dollar ones, with tight tolerances do it less, loose tolerance guns do it more.

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Thanks, I know its a good gun my cousin just pointed it out as if it's supposed to shoot tight groups at insane ranges out of the box at the price I paid for it. We'll see if he still runs his mouth after we get it sighted in and it does as advertised.

[Palladin]

... We installed the bolt and noticed when it was pulled out it had play in it and could be "rattled" around. I'm assuming after I break it in the gasses & heat will make the bolt itself expand slightly.

But with the bolt closed, she's tighter than a tick, right? Wring that baby out and check back in with what you find. Get several different loads and manufacturers and keep good records. Get your buddy to load it for you after about 40 rounds, handing it to you for each shot - with the instructions to give it to you empty without your knowledge. Your flinch on the empty chamber will tell you what your body and brain really thinks of the recoil.
I won't shoot my Model 70 Featherweight more than 20 times at a pop, I just can't take it and my groups go all to crap. 5-11, 175.

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Yes it is, the bolt action is also quite smooth if the magazine is inserted.. without it it's a bit rough. As far as flinching I doubt I'll have that issue, the springfield was my first gun and the only issue I had was pulling the trigger too fast and throwing my shots off to the right. The first gun I ever fired was my cousin's 30-30 lever action rifle at age 15. Back then I was about 5'11" and 200 lbs. I fired it standing up and hardly felt anything... according to recoil tables the 180 grain rounds I bought for my rifle have about twice the amount of recoil, but we'll see. I may be able to fire it this Wed.

[Snakester]

Adam , I shot a Savage Axis XP Stainless .270 Win. Today ...WOW Great shooting Rifle ! My friend bought it this morning at Walmart . He wanted a Rifle that he can Deer Hunt with and also do a little Ground Hog Shooting. He also ask about the bolt being loose when open , but was tight when closed. We only shot it 40 rds. It only took 3 shots to sight in at 75 yds. and then shot it at 120 yds. Shot Great , very little recoil and even the Scope was Fine...For $400 ...What a great a Deal !

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I'm going out to shackfords tomorrow to fire it. I might take video if the rifle doesn't throw me around.

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Well my buddies dad bugged out so I didn't get to fire the gun, but superior pawn in va beach is open tomorrow. I'm tired of waiting so I'll celebrate the 4th with a big bang.

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Just got back a while ago. I was shaking like a leaf and hopped up on monster from not slleping but after two shots i felt the adrenaline pumping and it snapped me out of it. Me and my cousin fired 10 rounds each and neither of us are sore. I also was right. Hes suprised that the gun shots were accurate and is just as happy as I am with it. :-X

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