Ohio LEO "Load your pistol, please"

[gunderwood]

@gunderwood:

I think you misinterpreted what I said.

I said that I see little or no disadvantage in having an empty chamber if a gun is carried in a console or compartment, and that includes a 1911. I did not advocate keeping a 1911 (or any other pistol) cocked and locked inside a compartment. Have not, do not, would not.
In fact I do keep pistols in a vehicle console, and I keep them loaded but with an empty chamber - for all the reasons you mentioned plus all the reasons I mentioned.

When I talked about Glocks and 1911s, I was talking about carrying rather than hauling them around in a vehicle compartment. As a matter of personal choice, I just don't carry loaded Glocks - even on the range. I'm not comfortable doing it.

I don't open carry. I seldom carry concealed. Any pistol I do carry must have what I consider to be a robust and positive safety arrangement. My comment was that WHEN carried, a 1911 should be cocked and locked on the theory that there is no more sense in carrying a pistol that is not ready to fire than there is in carrying one that may discharge accidentally.

I don't think we really disagree here on anything except that I'm afraid of Glocks and you aren't.

For whatever reason I thought you were talking about loose in a container. In which case, we agree, loaded, but not chambered regardless of safety arrangement.

[gunderwood]

@dormin/gunderwood - I'm finding this particularly interesting. Wrt to 1911 nd glocks, how does the difference between being striker fired change the dynamics? I appreciate the extra "safety" afforded by the 1911, role of a good holster, and fingers off the handgun unless you're going to use it. Honestly, I'm not necessarily convinced there is a big practical difference between comdition 1 vs 3 carry, rather it is more important to consistently train with one of those conditions.

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Apparently there was some confusion between carry vs. "carried" loose in a container.

If you are CCing, you should have a good holster capable of retaining the firearm and the firearm should be chambered and ready to fire. For a 1911, that means cocked and locked. For a Glock that simply means chambered.

Sorry for the confusion.

[steelheart]

Thats why i like my beretta. The safety/decocker also physically moves part of the firing pin away. I can and do carry with one in the pipe.

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