Re: Mosin nagant
Posted: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 08:28:50
Sure some of you have read this, just found it and got some good laughs...
There's an ever present, unending debate over which is best, ARs or AKs, raging across the internet and in gun shops every day sending bile and bitter insults spewing both ways. This debate has turned fathers against sons, best friends against one another, and........well you get the point. The author is of the opinion that there are of course pros and cons to each family of rifle, and I refuse to engage in what is "best". As one who loves them all, especially the AK and AR series, I thought I'd pass on some of the knowledge I have gained over the years concerning these wildly different weapons. As a bonus, I'll toss in my knowledge of another favorite family of weapons at the Bunker, just because they are very popular these days and I often ramble about them. So, here, for the aid of those hammering one another in the debate, is some unbiased, non-slanted, untainted raw knowledge about the AK, the AR, and the Mosin Nagant.
Stuff you know if you have an AK
Stuff you know if you have an AR
Stuff you know if you have a Mosin Nagant
AK
It works though you have never cleaned it. Ever.
AR
You have $9 per ounce special non-detergent synthetic Teflon infused oil for cleaning.
Mosin
It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945.
AK
You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from inside.
AR
You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters.
Mosin
You can hit the farm from two counties over.
AK
Cheap mags are fun to buy.
AR
Cheap mags melt.
Mosin
What's a mag?
AK
Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.
AR
You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger.
Mosin
What's a safety?
AK
Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling.
AR
Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical suspension system.
Mosin
You rifle has dog collars.
AK
Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter.
AR
Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak knife.
Mosin
Your bayonet is longer than your leg.
AK
You can put a .30" hole through 12" of oak, if you can hit it.
AR
You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30 rounds.
Mosin
You can knock down everyone else's target with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange.
AK
When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
AR
When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat.
Mosin
When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.
AK
Recoil is manageable, even fun.
AR
What's recoil?
Mosin
Recoil is often used to relocated shoulders thrown out by the previous shot.
AK
Your sight adjustment goes to "10", and you've never bothered moving it.
AR
Your sight adjustment is incremented in fractions of minute of angle.
Mosin
Your sight adjustment goes to 12 miles and you've actually tried it.
AK
Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
AR
Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts.
Mosin
Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time.
AK
Your rifle won some revolutions.
AR
Your rifle won the Cold War.
Mosin
Your rifle won a pole vault event.
AK
You paid $350.
AR
You paid $900.
Mosin
You paid $59.95.
AK
You buy cheap ammo by the case.
AR
You lovingly reload precision crafted rounds one by one.
Mosin
You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in Ukraine and it works just fine.
AK
You can intimidate your foe with the bayonet mounted.
AR
You foes laugh when you mount your bayonet.
Mosin
You can bayonet your foe on the other side of the river without leaving the comfort of your hole.
AK
Service life, 50 years.
AR
Service life, 40 years.
Mosin
Service life, 100 years, and counting.
AK
It's easier to buy a new rifle when you want to change cartridge sizes.
AR
You can change cartridge sizes with the push of a couple of pins and a new upper.
Mosin
You believe no real man would dare risk the ridicule of his friends by suggesting there is anything but 7.62x54r.
AK
You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick.
AR
You can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith, it's under warranty!
Mosin
If your rifle breaks, you buy a new one.
AK
You consider it a badge of honor when you get your handguards to burst into flames.
AR
You consider it a badge of honor when you shoot a sub-MOA 5 shot group.
Mosin
You consider it a badge of honor when you cycle 5 rounds without the aid of a 2x4.
AK
After a long day the range you relax by watching "Red Dawn".
AR
After a long day at the range you relax by watching "Blackhawk Down".
Mosin
After a long day at the range you relax by visiting the chiropractor.
AK
After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for a stiff shot of Vodka.
AR
After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for hotdogs and apple pie.
Mosin
After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for shishkabob.
AK
You can accessorize you rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice stock set.
AR
Your rifle's accessories are eight times more valuable than your rifle.
Mosin
Your rifle's accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid, but it's buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest.
AK
Your rifle's finish is varnish and paint.
AR
Your rifle's finish is Teflon and high tech polymers.
Mosin
Your rifle's finish is low grade shellac, cosmoline and Olga's toe nails.
AK
Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Mikhail Kalashnikov.
AR
Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Eugene Stoner.
Mosin
You're not sure there WERE cameras to photograph Sergei Mosin.
AK
Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!"
AR
Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to clear your house, slicing the pie from room to room.
Mosin
Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the urge to dig a fighting trench in the the yard to sleep in.
There you have it. In the end, it is clear to any open minded inquirer that the Mosin Nagant is the most superior weapon of all time, but the AR and the AK come out as a draw when compared side by side.
There's an ever present, unending debate over which is best, ARs or AKs, raging across the internet and in gun shops every day sending bile and bitter insults spewing both ways. This debate has turned fathers against sons, best friends against one another, and........well you get the point. The author is of the opinion that there are of course pros and cons to each family of rifle, and I refuse to engage in what is "best". As one who loves them all, especially the AK and AR series, I thought I'd pass on some of the knowledge I have gained over the years concerning these wildly different weapons. As a bonus, I'll toss in my knowledge of another favorite family of weapons at the Bunker, just because they are very popular these days and I often ramble about them. So, here, for the aid of those hammering one another in the debate, is some unbiased, non-slanted, untainted raw knowledge about the AK, the AR, and the Mosin Nagant.
Stuff you know if you have an AK
Stuff you know if you have an AR
Stuff you know if you have a Mosin Nagant
AK
It works though you have never cleaned it. Ever.
AR
You have $9 per ounce special non-detergent synthetic Teflon infused oil for cleaning.
Mosin
It was last cleaned in Berlin in 1945.
AK
You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from inside.
AR
You are able to hit the broad side of a barn from 600 meters.
Mosin
You can hit the farm from two counties over.
AK
Cheap mags are fun to buy.
AR
Cheap mags melt.
Mosin
What's a mag?
AK
Your safety can be heard from 300 meters away.
AR
You can silently flip off the safety with your finger on the trigger.
Mosin
What's a safety?
AK
Your rifle comes with a cheap nylon sling.
AR
Your rifle has a 9 point stealth tactical suspension system.
Mosin
You rifle has dog collars.
AK
Your bayonet makes a good wire cutter.
AR
Your bayonet is actually a pretty good steak knife.
Mosin
Your bayonet is longer than your leg.
AK
You can put a .30" hole through 12" of oak, if you can hit it.
AR
You can put one hole in a paper target at 100 meters with 30 rounds.
Mosin
You can knock down everyone else's target with the shock wave of your bullet going downrange.
AK
When out of ammo your rifle will nominally pass as a club.
AR
When out of ammo, your rifle makes a great wiffle bat.
Mosin
When out of ammo, your rifle makes a supreme war club, pike, boat oar, tent pole, or firewood.
AK
Recoil is manageable, even fun.
AR
What's recoil?
Mosin
Recoil is often used to relocated shoulders thrown out by the previous shot.
AK
Your sight adjustment goes to "10", and you've never bothered moving it.
AR
Your sight adjustment is incremented in fractions of minute of angle.
Mosin
Your sight adjustment goes to 12 miles and you've actually tried it.
AK
Your rifle can be used by any two bit nation's most illiterate conscripts to fight elite forces worldwide.
AR
Your rifle is used by elite forces worldwide to fight two bit nations' most illiterate conscripts.
Mosin
Your rifle has fought against itself and won every time.
AK
Your rifle won some revolutions.
AR
Your rifle won the Cold War.
Mosin
Your rifle won a pole vault event.
AK
You paid $350.
AR
You paid $900.
Mosin
You paid $59.95.
AK
You buy cheap ammo by the case.
AR
You lovingly reload precision crafted rounds one by one.
Mosin
You dig your ammo out of a farmer's field in Ukraine and it works just fine.
AK
You can intimidate your foe with the bayonet mounted.
AR
You foes laugh when you mount your bayonet.
Mosin
You can bayonet your foe on the other side of the river without leaving the comfort of your hole.
AK
Service life, 50 years.
AR
Service life, 40 years.
Mosin
Service life, 100 years, and counting.
AK
It's easier to buy a new rifle when you want to change cartridge sizes.
AR
You can change cartridge sizes with the push of a couple of pins and a new upper.
Mosin
You believe no real man would dare risk the ridicule of his friends by suggesting there is anything but 7.62x54r.
AK
You can repair your rifle with a big hammer and a swift kick.
AR
You can repair your rifle by taking it to a certified gunsmith, it's under warranty!
Mosin
If your rifle breaks, you buy a new one.
AK
You consider it a badge of honor when you get your handguards to burst into flames.
AR
You consider it a badge of honor when you shoot a sub-MOA 5 shot group.
Mosin
You consider it a badge of honor when you cycle 5 rounds without the aid of a 2x4.
AK
After a long day the range you relax by watching "Red Dawn".
AR
After a long day at the range you relax by watching "Blackhawk Down".
Mosin
After a long day at the range you relax by visiting the chiropractor.
AK
After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for a stiff shot of Vodka.
AR
After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for hotdogs and apple pie.
Mosin
After cleaning your rifle you have a strong urge for shishkabob.
AK
You can accessorize you rifle with a new muzzle brake or a nice stock set.
AR
Your rifle's accessories are eight times more valuable than your rifle.
Mosin
Your rifle's accessory is a small tin can with a funny lid, but it's buried under an apartment building somewhere in Budapest.
AK
Your rifle's finish is varnish and paint.
AR
Your rifle's finish is Teflon and high tech polymers.
Mosin
Your rifle's finish is low grade shellac, cosmoline and Olga's toe nails.
AK
Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Mikhail Kalashnikov.
AR
Your wife tolerates your autographed framed picture of Eugene Stoner.
Mosin
You're not sure there WERE cameras to photograph Sergei Mosin.
AK
Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to hold your rifle over your head and shout "Wolverines!"
AR
Late at night you sometimes have to fight the urge to clear your house, slicing the pie from room to room.
Mosin
Late at night, you sometimes have to fight the urge to dig a fighting trench in the the yard to sleep in.
There you have it. In the end, it is clear to any open minded inquirer that the Mosin Nagant is the most superior weapon of all time, but the AR and the AK come out as a draw when compared side by side.
