Are WE going to act or sit back and let it all happen?

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Re: Are WE going to act or sit back and let it all happen?

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Kruetz! A post I can 110% agree with......pigs must have sprouted wings. (All in good fun of course!)

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Re: Are WE going to act or sit back and let it all happen?

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Honestly I don't think we have much choice, we can put up a fight but it's going to come down to public opinion.
We have an administration who now they are not up for re-election can take the gloves off.
You have the MSM who pushes the agenda and will show every shooting and try to make a case for gun controls.
And the straw that broke the camels back is this CT shooting. It's hard to say one life is more valuable than another and it if it were 20 gang bangers we wouldn't be having this conversation.

This administration had the new AWB by their own accounts drafted for over a year and I think it was going to get a major push but this shooting puts it front and center.

In the battle of public opinion I can't imagine many republicans are going to fight this too hard, more likely just for show then roll over. If they fight it they will get bounced in 2014. You will have the media vilify the republican's and they will not stand a chance in the mid terms.
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Re: Are WE going to act or sit back and let it all happen?

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See I think the opposite any republican that comes within throwing distance of this bill is DOA in 2014.... Why do I think that! Go to your local gun store and try to get an "assault rifle tomorrow".

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Re: Are WE going to act or sit back and let it all happen?

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No, the camel straw is not CT. It will come soon, and even more horrific.
I have re-analyzed the data I have collected all over the place. Well, the data stinks badly.

I have warned you after Aurora shooting that another will came. Then another.

I am warning you again: another "event" is coming soon. They have lost the patience.

Be ready, confiscation and Martial Law is coming, very soon.
I don't know the American society enough to say if it will be or not a civil war, but I know how propaganda works.
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Re: Are WE going to act or sit back and let it all happen?

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Quoting myself :(
kelu wrote:Fiscal cliff failure is not random. Dems are ready to take the bad tasting pill and have taxes increases, knowing that exactly this will get them more votes, blaming Rap for this. The most affected will be those with small and medium income (some 25-30% tax increase) , not the rich guy (10%).
Then they will come with some social programs, making people even more dependent on govt benevolence.
In couple years from now, Dems will have absolute majority everywhere. Rps have lost when they kicked Ron Paul.
I'm don't like Dems, I don't like Reps. I don't know enough about other options...
That’s why I’d recommend going over the cliff and forcing the Republicans’ hand. It’s a risky strategy but it would at least expose the Republican tactic and put public pressure squarely on rank-and-file Republicans, where it belongs.

The fanatics in the GOP have to be held accountable or they’ll continue to hold the nation hostage to their extremism. Even if it takes until the 2014 midterms to loosen their hold, the cost is worth it.
Read more: http://robertreich.org/post/38853097766#ixzz2GAFawHrM
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