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But he doesn't want a libertarian party; he wants a conservative party. There's a difference.

I myself have really gotten into the libertarian party over the last year and applaud their pro-gun stance lately. They just need a bigger megaphone to get their message out to more people.

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"Many took the "high ground" and voted for candidates that couldn't win. A wasted vote.

You want blame? Blame the gun owners who didn't vote because the candidate that had a chance was worked over by the media's liberal election machine."


Read my statement again.

Had these TWO categories of voters voted against Obummer, he would be pouring wine for his marxist friends in his backyard in Chicago right now.

As for Kreutz he voted for Obummer....exactly as I stated by wasting his vote. His pockets are lined anyway. That's all that really matters to him. It's a matter of record.

Legalized drugs and isolationism aren't going to fly with most voters. Other than that most libertarian views are conservative in nature and would be supported by conservative voters. A hybred candidate might win support if they strike the right balance. I doubt a libertarian 3rd party would.

Constitutionalism and conservatism could unite many who'se eyes are still open. The right arguments could open eyes that are closed.

I took a month off to lick my wounds after the election. Constant self deprication by conservatives will just allow the progressives to pull their same routine again next time.

Time to get angry, work, and change things while we still can in the ballot box! Progressives don't apologize for their failures. They build the machine and continue on. we need to do the same.

We did tell you this would happen.

How about the GOP stand for ANYTHING!?!?!

So Sick of them worrying about re-election while the Democrats just get away with MURDER!

STAND UP FOR CRISSAKES! BE CONSERVATIVE! You may lose, but at least you have your principles! Dammit all to HELL!

I think if the GOp does not start standing up to that [moderated] . If they do not do that every conservative should vote democrat in the next election. Before you say I am crazy here me out.

If a second revolution or civil war comes I would rather it come while the country is demographically the way it is now and while we have guns.


To Obama

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS [moderated]!!!!!

totes6 wrote:Oh and by the way he spoke out against the Patriot Act (and all of its freedom stripping measures), ObamaCare and many other Non-Constitutional Bills/Laws. Don't believe the media lies about the Libertarians. They are what the Republicans claim to be.

QFT!

ShotgunBlast wrote:But he doesn't want a libertarian party; he wants a conservative party. There's a difference.

I myself have really gotten into the libertarian party over the last year and applaud their pro-gun stance lately. They just need a bigger megaphone to get their message out to more people.

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The difference is libertarians stick to their principles, while conservatives start rationalizing them away like a democrat when faced with something they don't like. E.g. drugs.

gunderwood wrote: The difference is libertarians stick to their principles, while conservatives start rationalizing they away like a democrat when faced with something they don't like. E.g. drugs.

Amen, brother.

QFT? What is this gang code?

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GeneFrenkle wrote:QFT? What is this gang code?

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Quote for Truth.

Word! TY

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GeneFrenkle wrote:QFT? What is this gang code?

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LOL, no, but I'm sure it gets me on all the right lists!

"The difference is libertarians stick to their principles, while conservatives start rationalizing them away like a democrat when faced with something they don't like. E.g. drugs."


LIBERALTARIANS divide like the progressives, and have the same amoral standards toward social issues. Many are just grown up anarchists.

Not all libertarians want a society that allows drugs, prostitution, and a complete head-in-the-sand attitude towards evil in the world.

SSDD

Funny how those ignorant of what the "Patriot Act" really does take it as the flag of superior moral authority.....Most will never read it, much like the progressives and Obamacare...It's like any other Act... some necissary, some crap... It's not a ticket for the government to listen in on your private conversations. Unless of course your daughters Calling okmed the camel trainer in Pakistan 50 times a day. I don't like it but I understand the function it was intended to carry out for national security. If you don't you've taken the opinions of others and not done your own evaluation.

LiberaLtarians all... They always take the topics down the nearest rabbit hole. Crapping on conservatives.

Usefull idiots it has been said.

Time to ignore the rif raf and take out the trash that's accumulated in the government.

This thread is a great example of exactly why Obama won!
What's more important... pure ideology or kicking the marxists out ?

ratherfish wrote:"The difference is libertarians stick to their principles, while conservatives start rationalizing them away like a democrat when faced with something they don't like. E.g. drugs."


LIBERALTARIANS divide like the progressives, and have the same amoral standards toward social issues. Many are just grown up anarchists.

Not all libertarians want a society that allows drugs, prostitution, and a complete head-in-the-sand attitude towards evil in the world.

SSDD

Funny how those ignorant of what the "Patriot Act" really does take it as the flag of superior moral authority.....Most will never read it, much like the progressives and Obamacare...It's like any other Act... some necissary, some crap... It's not a ticket for the government to listen in on your private conversations. Unless of course your daughters Calling okmed the camel trainer in Pakistan 50 times a day. I don't like it but I understand the function it was intended to carry out for national security. If you don't you've taken the opinions of others and not done your own evaluation.

LiberaLtarians all... They always take the topics down the nearest rabbit hole. Crapping on conservatives.

Usefull idiots it has been said.

Time to ignore the rif raf and take out the trash that's accumulated in the government.

This thread is a great example of exactly why Obama won!
What's more important... pure ideology or kicking the marxists out ?

Ah, the same old ratherfish diatribe full of ad hominem attacks, self-contradictions, and logical fallacies. You sir are this threads winner. Congrats.

Funny how legally smoking pot has allowed those who helped elect Obama to falsely claim the moral high ground...

Step back friend and you'll see that the liberaLtarians and the anarchists look much the same. Both are far afield of real libertarians. Just as classical liberalism has been transformed to meet the progressive agenda "liberaltarian" has been prostituted to be a big tent for the pot culture and grown up anarchists.

You're well on the way to plowing the road to have the idiot be made king.

As I said what's more inportant to you...legalizing pot or the republic?

As for attacks...

Don't throw um if you can't catch um buttercup.

Pretty obvious to anyone paying attention that he didn't do anything publicly in the first term because he wanted a second term. Now, it's katie barr the door.

zerodown1 wrote:Pretty obvious to anyone paying attention that he didn't do anything publicly in the first term because he wanted a second term. Now, it's katie barr the door.

Lots of supposed pro gun people mentioned this and I said from the start the boy was after our guns. Some people just dont get it. Because he is half black he has a better chance of getting the party to follow him because of how they pander to the black vote. Notice he got obamacare but clinton could not. There are senators who voted against clinton but voted for obamas plan.

Workers of America unite.

His coronation diatribe tells you exactly what his plans are.

We'd better find a way to nullify his demonization and division of his opponents before midterms. in 4 years Hilary will appear to be the moderate.