Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

IMHO Tula is a good round for the money. The Mosin wont mind it one bit. I have a bunch of Tula ammo lying around for any surplus I may need when the good stuff runs out. I have it in .223, 9mm, and .45acp.

They were obsolete clunkers when they were brand new. Most have damaged bores, from being fired with corrosive primed ammo, then not cleaned properly, in WW2, ferchrissakes. If you can't afford a better rifle, how can you possibly afford enough ammo to get and stay skilled with it, hmm? An sks is just $200 more, and ammo's at least 15c a rd, so that's a lousy 1500 rds, gone in a month or 2 of decent practice. If you are that broke, or are considering "handing out" guns to others, if shtf, get Glenfield marlin .22lr autoloaders. It's all that they MIGHT have a chance to hit anything with, anyway, and the used price is $60, from private sellers, at least. At 4x less cost per shot ,you/they can afford to be very skilled with a .22, and in a rifle, full of CCI Stinger ammo, they are no joke, in skilled hands, to 100 yds.

traveler wrote:They were obsolete clunkers when they were brand new. Most have damaged bores, from being fired with corrosive primed ammo, then not cleaned properly, in WW2, ferchrissakes. If you can't afford a better rifle, how can you possibly afford enough ammo to get and stay skilled with it, hmm? An sks is just $200 more, and ammo's at least 15c a rd, so that's a lousy 1500 rds, gone in a month or 2 of decent practice. If you are that broke, or are considering "handing out" guns to others, if shtf, get Glenfield marlin .22lr autoloaders. It's all that they MIGHT have a chance to hit anything with, anyway, and the used price is $60, from private sellers, at least. At 4x less cost per shot ,you/they can afford to be very skilled with a .22, and in a rifle, full of CCI Stinger ammo, they are no joke, in skilled hands, to 100 yds.

I have a SCAR-H which is a very expensive rifle. As well as a couple other high end firearms. I also have and rather enjoy my Mosin. The reason to have a Mosin isn't because you're broke or need a hand out rifle. Some of us enjoy firing such a great rifle with so much history. Some do have their issues, but if you know what to look for, you can avoid them. Also, you don't need to fire 1500 rounds of ammo a month to stay efficient on a firearm. You don't need half that. Handle the weapon often and practice the functions. Get range time as often as you can, but keep yourself familiar with the weapon. That's key.

scrubber3 wrote:[q I also have and rather enjoy my Mosin. The reason to have a Mosin isn't because you're broke or need a hand out rifle. Some of us enjoy firing such a great rifle with so much history. .

that's what i was thinking ..an eighty year old rifle that killed nazis that can still shoot and is pretty cheap ? Why wouldn't you want one !

Riposite wrote:

scrubber3 wrote:[q I also have and rather enjoy my Mosin. The reason to have a Mosin isn't because you're broke or need a hand out rifle. Some of us enjoy firing such a great rifle with so much history. .

that's what i was thinking ..an eighty year old rifle that killed nazis that can still shoot and is pretty cheap ? Why wouldn't you want one !

too right. Was my bayonet with matching #s used on germans or deer? To survive or to survive? Awesome piece of history at an affordable price. Heck of a kick and a good intro into larger caliber rifles. Shooting my mossin sniper makes me appreciate my newer one all the more.

I Had a 1943 M91/30. Great rifle and was budget friendly being a mass produced gun and and ammo. I had a good time with it. Ened up trading it for a 1967 Dodge D200. Anyways I would buy Russian Nagants ONLY. Finnish nagants are in 7.62x53mm as opposed to the russian 7.62x54mm. I assume the finn's had to be different and standout durin the finnish-russo war? Anywas back to the topic. Like I said stick to rusian variants. Or if your lucky find one made by remington for WWI. Stay away from the ones made in china.

I've owned two: a 91/30 built in 1943 and an M44 built in 1946. I sold the 91/30 to make space in the gun box... the 91/30 is looooooong.
The 91/30 had a much looser fit between pieces of the bolt. I'm not sure that was because it had seen a lot of use in WWII or because it was made during wartime in a hurry. It appeared to have been rebarrelled. The M44 has a tighter fit between parts and sometimes takes a little force to open the bolt after firing. No biggee but it's noticable.
The M44 has an attached bayonet. I took it off at one point and it changed the point of impact considerably. When I put it back on it returned to original POI. Accuracy is much better with the bayonet ON for me. YMMV.
I use Brown Bear ammo with mine and it does well. The major limitation is my eyesight with the iron sights. I can still vaporize a saucer at 100 yards off the sandbag, though. The trigger is better than I expected it would be.
I bought mine for ~$85 back in the day but even at twice that it's the best bargain around now IMHO. Get a comfy buttpad for it.
Cheers