Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Just a little food for thought on this letter posted by the OP.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Tax-V ... debt-worse


Romeny- Adds $2.6 trillion to the debt and drive it to about 96 percent of GDP

Santorum - Adds to the debt by $4.5 trillion to 104 percent of GDP.

Gingrich - Adds $7 trillion to the debt and drive it to 114 percent of GDP.

And the short blurb about Paul:
"The group figures that if government policy stays on track, the national debt would grow from 78 percent of Gross Domestic Product today to 85 percent in 2021. Paul would pare that to about 76 percent."


The only difference between Obama and most of the GOP candidates is what they want to spend the money on. Paul is the only one with the guts to actually cut spending in a meaningful way. So if you want actual spending cuts (something I think "MOST" of us have been screaming at the government for, for years) who do you vote for?

I have to agree with Kreutz on this one, Romney is only Obamalite, but so is Santorum and Gingrich.

I usually post these in the VCDL folder but here is the survey results Ron Paul is 100% Pro 2A and Romney will not answer the survey. If you check his record I think you will find it very interesting
Please take a look at this link and I think that you will find that Romney is no friend to the 2A
http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Mitt_Ro ... ontrol.htm

VA-ALERT: Federal Candidate Survey for the Republican Presidential Primary
Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:39 AM
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Today, Tuesday, March 6, there will be the Republican Presidential Primary.

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Survey: http://www.vcdl.org/surveys/federal_survey_2012.html

Ron Paul answered the VCDL Candidate survey 100% in support of gun owners. Unfortunately, Mitt Romney has so far refused to answer VCDL's survey.

If a candidate is afraid to take a public stand on these issues now, BEFORE the election, then they are unlikely to be very responsive to your views AFTER the election.

Failure to return a completed survey frequently indicates indifference, if not outright hostility, toward the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

Please contact Ron Paul and thank him for his support for your rights.

Also contact Mitt Romney. Politely urge him to take a public stand on these important issues and answer the VCDL Candidate Survey.

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Now compare Ron Pauls stance on the 2A

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_Pau ... ontrol.htm

There is a HUGE difference between the two.

It's not starting them that's the issue. It's allowing the warfighter to do his job and return home.

Liberal halfA$$ed rules of engagement have killed more of our men than direct conflict.

Enough of that rant...

Isolationism doesn't work .

I held my nose and voted Romney.

Anyone But Obama 2012!

The wife and I voted for Ron Paul; the only unique candidate in the race.

Paul hasn't sponsored significant legislation NOT ONCE in his long long long long history in congress.

What good would his record be on anything if he never did or does anything?

He has about 10% of the population who don't care to scout out his history and backers, snowed. His foreign policy is identical to Jane Fonda's.

"unique" from the guy who's voting for Obama, the liar in chief! Uh huh!

I almost voted for him to keep Santorum in the race.

Then I threw up in my mouth.

ratherfish wrote:Paul hasn't sponsored significant legislation NOT ONCE in his long long long long history in congress.

What good would his record be on anything if he never did or does anything?

He has about 10% of the population who don't care to scout out his history and backers, snowed. His foreign policy is identical to Jane Fonda's.

"unique" from the guy who's voting for Obama, the liar in chief! Uh huh!

You are gay for me ain't ya? You just can't keep off me!

I'd put you back on ignore but honestly I like the ego boost from ya sugar daddy.

Your literal(!) constant attention makes me feel loved and flattered; never had another man into me before. Though I don't care to take this to a physical level, know I really am flattered.

You seem to have a one track mind......

Very disturbing...

Care to respond to my comment rather than babbleing on about homosexuality?

I'd expect more from a "hyper-literate" liberal.

JUST KIDDING! LOL

Kreutz wrote:

ratherfish wrote:Paul hasn't sponsored significant legislation NOT ONCE in his long long long long history in congress.

What good would his record be on anything if he never did or does anything?

He has about 10% of the population who don't care to scout out his history and backers, snowed. His foreign policy is identical to Jane Fonda's.

"unique" from the guy who's voting for Obama, the liar in chief! Uh huh!

You are gay for me ain't ya? You just can't keep off me!

I'd put you back on ignore but honestly I like the ego boost from ya sugar daddy.

Your literal(!) constant attention makes me feel loved and flattered; never had another man into me before. Though I don't care to take this to a physical level, know I really am flattered.

oh god thank you.... PLEASE AT LEAST READ SOMETHING OTHER THEN THE BLURBS YOU PICK UP ON FOX NEWS AND CNN TO MAKE YOUR DECISION.. Christ no wonder some people would actually vote for romney SLOPPY VOTING = SLOPPY PRESIDENTS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_le ... y_Ron_Paul


http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billsea ... sor=400311
(48 last term)

http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profil ... aul/Bills/

There is a couple places you can edgemacate yourself. I know, I know, reading is an obama but it will make you feel good.

How many passed???

Most of those are the old fart breaking wind!

Do you read what you post?

The locusts decend...

Night "hyper-literates"

Has any of RP legisation passed? The awnser is no.

http://www.dailypaul.com/81920/a-list-o ... een-passed

Ha ha ha yes you are right the pass rate sucks that is what tends to happen you have one few to none actually standing up for the right direction. And when I say right i do not mean just to me is it not very obvious you are unhappy with how its going? Please please be the people that say of course things are bad becuase obamas president becuase it started allot earlier than that. In fact did you read the titles of the proposed legislation? My bet would be you would agree to at least 75% of it. now Please tell me you have the brains+balls to realize that it would be better to vote for a long shot who will most likely represent you as a citizen and not eat the dog s*** your fed and vote for the next man that will do the same thing that has gone on but wrap it in a package more suitable to you. romney will comtinue to run this country into the ground but hell have an (R) by his name READ HIS PROPOSALS.


"Paul hasn't sponsored significant legislation NOT ONCE in his long long long long history in congress."

and I responded to your post please read closely......

Do you even read what you post?

Ha ha ha yes you are right the pass rate sucks that is what tends to happen you have few to none actually standing up for the right direction. Is it not very obvious you are unhappy with how its going? Please be the people that say of course things are bad because obamas president, it started allot earlier than that. In fact did you read the titles of the proposed legislation? My bet would be you would agree to at least 75% of it. now Please tell me you have the brains to realize that it would be better to vote for a long shot who will most likely represent you as a citizen and not eat the dog s*** your fed, and vote for the next man that will do the same thing. I guess its OK as long as it's elephant pies and not donkey crap. Romney will continue to run this country into the ground but hell have an (R) by his name READ HIS PROPOSALS.


"Paul hasn't sponsored significant legislation NOT ONCE in his long long long long history in congress."

I responded to your post please read closely......

Do you even read what you post?

pnkmdfnky wrote:
Do you even read what you post?

No, he doesn't, and I suspect no one else does either. Why waste the time?
He's just trying to find a friend, but Kreutz won't have him.

well I hope it feels good to be part of the herd and not debate points but go to personal attacks when you have no information or ideas to debate. I feel sorry for you man

pnkmdfnky wrote:well I hope it feels good to be part of the herd and not debate points but go to personal attacks when you have no information or ideas to debate. I feel sorry for you man

It would be good to make it clear to whom your posts are directed....I hope you are aiming at ratherfish....

Sorry your right and yes