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I will be in surgery in Richmond that day getting my new left knee put in. If someone want's to drop a large reg. off to me I will be happy for the infusion after surgery.
Bill

mk4 wrote:not sure how much a va chp will help, and, unless you've already got one, the md permit is purportedly almost impossible to get. having a look at: http://www.handgunlaw.us/ shows that ny, nj and md don't honor any other states' permits. all look to be very difficult to get, for residents, and even less clear how tough for non-residents to get.

I'm familiar with VA firearms law but not sure whether they apply to non-residents in the state. I feel that I'll be better protected under FOPA when I have a non-res VA CHP. FOPA reads as follows:


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§ 926A. INTERSTATE TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS
Notwithstanding any other provision of any law or any rule or regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof, any person who is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful purpose from any place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm to any other place where he may lawfully possess and carry such firearm if, during such transportation the firearm is unloaded, and neither the firearm nor any ammunition being transported is readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment of such transporting vehicle: Provided, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment separate from the driver’s compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be contained in a locked container other than the glove compartment or conso

SgtBill wrote:I will be in surgery in Richmond that day getting my new left knee put in. If someone want's to drop a large reg. off to me I will be happy for the infusion after surgery.
Bill

Bill likes Foofoo coffee?

Geezer wrote: I'm familiar with VA firearms law but not sure whether they apply to non-residents in the state. I feel that I'll be better protected under FOPA when I have a non-res VA CHP. FOPA reads as follows:

If you are eligible for a Non-Res VA CHP, then you are golden here in VA in terms of possession of firearms. VA law applies equally to both residents and non residents. The only thing that a non-res CHP adds is the ability conceal carry your handguns. You can still open carry without one if you so choose. A non-res VA CHP will do you no good in NY, MD or NJ. Your only protection there is FOPA and I highly recommend that you do not stop while in those states unless you absolutely have to and obey traffic laws. Basically do not invite any law law enforcement to pull you over. There are stories of gun owners trying to pass through NJ under FOPA protection and still getting their firearms confiscated and it take years for the case to make it through the courts for the owners to get them back.

Just follow VA state law while you are here, and enjoy the freedom.

Call it anything you want, but I am a coffee fanatic. I will drink the free swill at work, and I will play quite a bit for Jamaican Blue Mountain...

Starbucks Sumatra is pretty daggone good for a "regular cup of coffee". I drink coffee like wine fanatics drink their favorite vintages...

But Wa-Wa's seen me in there on hard mornings as well.

I wonder how this will work out if starbucks starts selling the sauce ? Supposidly they are going to start selling beer or wine , I always heard you cant carry a concealed weapon in a bar ? I guess this might be a gray area mabey since they are a "coffee" Shop ...

roverich wrote:I wonder how this will work out if starbucks starts selling the sauce ? Supposidly they are going to start selling beer or wine , I always heard you cant carry a concealed weapon in a bar ? I guess this might be a gray area mabey since they are a "coffee" Shop ...

The law was changed a couple years ago, so you can now carry concealed in an ABC establishment, you just can't legally consume when CC.

Apparently, there is a "Buy-cott" scheduled to counteract the anti-gunners boycott, or so my father tells me.

The plan is to pay for coffee with a $2 bill; signifying 2A, of course.

Before anyone mentions the ridiculously high price of Starbucks coffee, you can still get a small basic coffee for a couple cents less than 2 bucks, lol.

I guess banks still carry $2 bills... been a while since I've seen one...

SHMIV wrote:The plan is to pay for coffee with a $2 bill; signifying 2A, of course.

Bad idea. All it will do is piss off the cashier for having to deal with a non-standard denomination.

Apparently the better use for the two dollar bills is for tips. Harder to be annoyed when the money is going in your pocket.

Reverenddel wrote:Starbucks Sumatra is pretty daggone good for a "regular cup of coffee". I drink coffee like wine fanatics drink their favorite vintages...

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Thanks. Now maybe I can order a coffee there without holding that line of milleniels and yuppies up while I stand there with my mouth hanging open squinting in total confusion at that menu board that might as well be written in Sanskrit. Much obleeged.

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dorminWS wrote:The local economic development folks in these Southwest Virginia counties out here have a phrase by which they refer to the lack of "millennial-oriented quality of life amenities" that plagues us out here: They call it the "No-Starbucks issue". So I have not habituated Starbucks (even though I get out of the woods to the big cities fairly regularly) for a variety of reasons having nothing to do with the quality of their coffee OR their firearms policies:

What is it like out there? the furthest out I've been that way from Roanoke is Radford.

I met a person from a place called Tazewell who called Roanoke "the big city", and she was afraid to drive in it, which is weird because Roanoke is small. Is it true coal dust lands on cars and houses out there?

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It's like most other remote and relatively undeveloped areas. Lower average annual wage, higher poverty, lower workforce participation (although unemployment isn't too bad right now). Relatively low level of educational attainment, which is a bigger problem than most folks realize. It is said our dialect here is as close as is presently spoken to Elizabethan English. When I went to school in Charlottesville, some English major followed me around and took notes on my "arcane expressions" and "quaint usages" until I finally told him if he didn't go away I was going to stomp a mudhole in his @ss and then walk it back out again. Sometimes folks who come here from other places have occasional problems understanding us or being understood by us (not me - I speak "furriner" pretty good). But television and video games has pretty much changed a lot of that with the younger generation. We've got a lot of folks who are the salt of the earth, and a few that ain't worth the powder it would take to blow out their brains - IF they had any (just like everywhere else, I reckon). Fewer than 250,000 folks in the 5 westernmost counties. One county, Dickenson, has ZERO miles of divided highway and something like 16,000 total population. Biggest employer in all those counties is state and local government - that's mostly school employees and welfare and social workers. And yes, there are some places where a little coal dust might settle on cars and houses. Most of it blows off of coal trucks and railroad cars, though. Coal mines are pretty closely regulated on that stuff. When I was a boy, the N&W railroad was still using coal-burning steam engines, and I can remember that my mother and the other neighborhood women all kept track of the train schedules so they'd be sure to take their wash in off the clotheslines before the train came through and covered the clean laundry with soot. I also remember the long lines of open-hearth coke ovens that had a pall of black, greasy smoke towering hundreds of feet above them most of the time. Back then it was a pretty dirty place. All that really nasty stuff is long gone now. But the old stereotypes endure.

And, oh, yes - - - - it's the prettiest place on earth in any event. The Appalachian Plateau is mostly a deciduous rain forest. From the top of High Knob Mountain (which Norton sits at the foot of) you can see 5 states. We're closer to 6 other state capitals than we are to Richmond here in Norton. If you go to the westernmost County seat in Virginia (Jonesville in Lee County - 37 miles west), you are then also closer to Indianapolis, IN than you are to Richmond. All the localities trying to find something to take the place of the coal industry, with limited success. Lots of Medicare and medicaid patients out here, which makes it hard for hospitals to make it. No tertiary care this side of Roanoke or Tennessee (and Tennessee's closest ones are pretty iffy in my book). Closest commercial airports are Roanoke, Tri-Cities, TN, or Asheville, NC. Tazewell is about 70 miles from me and about 80 miles from Blacksburg.

And compared to anything within 150 miles of here, Roanoke IS a "big city". I like it that way, and to borrow part of your signature line, I'll stay.

That was a good read, dorminWS. Thanks

The use of $2 bills to use for their purchases may irritate the CASHIER, but that's not whom I want to SEE what's in the register! The idea is simple: Jefferson was an advocate of individual firearm ownership, the second amendment is the one that grants us legal permission to enjoy our hobby and individual ability to protect ourselves and our families, and it’s really easy to visually track sales to pro-gun folk.

“Wow, lots of $2 bills in the drop, what’s that all about?” “Oh well that’s because people supporting Starbucks for using good sense decided it would be a cool thing to do”

The dialogue remains open past the initial day and event; people will be talking about it at the bank and beyond. I think it’s a cool idea and I’ll be there with a fistful of $2 bills (you need a fistful to buy anything) and happily supporting a company that didn’t bend to those Brady whackjobs.

Reverenddel wrote:The use of $2 bills to use for their purchases may irritate the CASHIER, but that's not whom I want to SEE what's in the register! The idea is simple: Jefferson was an advocate of individual firearm ownership, the second amendment is the one that grants us legal permission to enjoy our hobby and individual ability to protect ourselves and our families, and it’s really easy to visually track sales to pro-gun folk.

“Wow, lots of $2 bills in the drop, what’s that all about?” “Oh well that’s because people supporting Starbucks for using good sense decided it would be a cool thing to do”

The dialogue remains open past the initial day and event; people will be talking about it at the bank and beyond. I think it’s a cool idea and I’ll be there with a fistful of $2 bills (you need a fistful to buy anything) and happily supporting a company that didn’t bend to those Brady whackjobs.

Very good reasoning. I like it!

Is the $2 bill still being printed, or are they disappearing as they wear out?

dorminWS wrote:Is the $2 bill still being printed, or are they disappearing as they wear out?

According to Wikipedia, about 1% of the US currency printed these days is $2 bills.

I don't usually frequent star buck, as I don't drink coffee, however I will stop in on feb 14 and get a chai tea or a lemonade, or something judge for that occasion.

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Holy cow! Typing on a tablet causes all sorts of typos!


That would be Starbucks, and stopping in just for that occasion.

Sorry yall

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I've been a cashier before, and I've known many others cashiers. The cashiers will not care about suddenly receiving $2 bills. There may be one or two random cashiers that are a bit anal and easily irritated, but they'll already be annoyed that you have the nerve to actually place an order and make them actually do work, anyway.

dorminWS wrote:We're closer to 6 other state capitals than we are to Richmond here in Norton. If you go to the westernmost County seat in Virginia (Jonesville in Lee County - 37 miles west), you are then also closer to Indianapolis, IN than you are to Richmond. All the localities trying to find something to take the place of the coal industry, with limited success. Lots of Medicare and medicaid patients out here, which makes it hard for hospitals to make it. No tertiary care this side of Roanoke or Tennessee (and Tennessee's closest ones are pretty iffy in my book). Closest commercial airports are Roanoke, Tri-Cities, TN, or Asheville, NC. Tazewell is about 70 miles from me and about 80 miles from Blacksburg.

And compared to anything within 150 miles of here, Roanoke IS a "big city". I like it that way, and to borrow part of your signature line, I'll stay.

Yeah, my wife gets a paper called he Catholic Virginian, which I read sometimes with my cereal in the morning and they did a profile on the parish furthest out in SW VA, and it mentioned that they were closer to so many other state capitols as opposed to Richmond. Ironically half of their parishioners were retirees from NY or NJ, go figure.

Man, you really are out there. Must be a different world, wanna take the kids to the Great Smoky Mountains when they're older, so I guess I'll pass through then. Have to remember to step off the interstate to hear the dialect you mentioned, sounds interesting. SO many transplants here I rarely hear a local accent which is sad.