Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Did you read the caveat about how I said "from the best I can figure"?

It doesn't matter where the show is filmed or what it's supposed to represent. They pretend to be in Virginia sometimes and then fabricate bulls**t about laws, then the Boreanaz character fist-bumps somebody into a coma and never gets cited for civil rights violations.

Meanwhile, "she" can carry concealed because she is a special person who is connected to federal law enforcement. What's so surprising about that?

None. Hollywood is in the fantasy entertainment business - and that's the only thing they do with any credibility. Hollywood is about as far from reality as it's possible to be. I can't imagine why anyone would expect realism from Hollywood.

TenchCoxe wrote:

- One of the most egregious: in the movie Lethal Weapon, Mel Gibson sends a silhouette target downrange, fired a bunch of rounds, and retreives the target, at which point we see he has put two eyes, a nose and a smile on the silhouette's head. In other word: No freakin' way.

Piece o' cake!



http://showmanshooter.com/html/toepperwein.html

I like it when they call shotgun shells bullets.

" Having a finger inside the trigger guard or resting on the trigger itself, rather than safe alongside the side"

THIS...THIS VERY MUCH! All the other comments were valid points, but THAT!? Yeah, I know it's abuse now, but my family, and family friends would pop me gentle like on the noggin' if I EVER put my finger INSIDE of the trigger guard on a BB GUN!!!

"LEARN NOW! THERE WON'T BE ANY 'Sorry' LATER!" Heard that so much, drilled into my head.

Now? Can't watch a show/movie that they start off doing that...

Make fun of him all you want, you know who handles the firearms correctly? STEVEN SEAGAL!

I hate gratuitous working of actions. Such as when a gun is pointed at someone for several minutes, then as if to emphasize the point, a hammer is cocked or slide racked.

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Constantly racking the slide from scene to scene whne nothing has been fired and no round is ejected. I know it's more of an editing problem but it bugs the snot out of me

The seemingly complete lack of recoil, instant death from a pistol shot to the shoulder, a five second death where the bad guy has time to lift up his hand to touch a bullet hole in his forehead, huge muzzle flashes, the click sound everytime someone points a gun no matter what kind. Someone said this was the sound of a safety being clicked off I had never thought of that but it just keeps clicking whenever they point it somewhere else. NCIS does pretty well in the gun department though my favorite quote was when the forensic chick said it was a ".40 short and weak. I don't know why they call it that." and Gibbs said "Because it lacks the power of the 10mm auto cartridge"

Chasbo00 wrote:None. Hollywood is in the fantasy entertainment business - and that's the only thing they do with any credibility. Hollywood is about as far from reality as it's possible to be. I can't imagine why anyone would expect realism from Hollywood.

Excuse me but this is a topic about firearms, not politics.

czub wrote:NCIS does pretty well in the gun department though my favorite quote was when the forensic chick said it was a ".40 short and weak. I don't know why they call it that." and Gibbs said "Because it lacks the power of the 10mm auto cartridge"

Well, to be fair, my understanding is that the 10mm does have *slightly* higher velocity than the standard .40 and is a *slightly* longer round (like 22 mm versus 25 mm cartridge length -meaning more propellant?).

But otherwise - yeah.

Reminds me of stories I have seen reported in local newspapers about shootings done with a 22mm handgun. Holy cow, that's a huge gun! Or a .9 caliber handgun. Wow, another massive handgun! And of course, they often refer to a semi-auto as an "automatic". E.g., "the police say the victim was shot with a .22mm automatic pistol." Er...yeah.

I don't understand why the Hero kills a badguy with a revolver and then leaves the badguy's UZI behind? DUDE PICK UP THE UZI !!!!

Another one:

Guy gets shot from a handgun, which was fired by some petite cute blonde or something - and the impact of the bullet sends the guy flying backwards.

Probably the most absurd example of this was in the awful Whoopi Goldberg movie, I think it was called "Fatal Beauty." Right at the end of the movie, she's in a parking garage facing down a bad guy. She shoots him and he gets knocked down but then gets back up, shows her he's wearing body armor and yells at her "Kevlar, b**ch!"

She shoots him in the head with her snubnose .357 magnum and his entire body goes flying backwards into the windshield of a parked car, and she says, "Smith and Wesson, a**h*le."

So that single round from a handgun delivered enough force to throw this 165-pound guy about 10 feet through the air, but Whoopi fired it from her hand without breaking her arm.

But movies are always violating the laws of physics.

Well, to be fair, my understanding is that the 10mm does have *slightly* higher velocity than the standard .40 and is a *slightly* longer round (like 22 mm versus 25 mm cartridge length -meaning more propellant?).

Oh no he didn't. At least 200fps and up to 400fps higher velocity in a 180gr loading is not *slight*. Is it neccessary? No. But I like it.

I can't figure out how to partially quote someone.

czub wrote:I can't figure out how to partially quote someone.

Just quote them, then delete the stuff you don't want.

czub wrote:NCIS does pretty well in the gun department though my favorite quote was when the forensic chick said it was a ".40 short and weak. I don't know why they call it that." and Gibbs said "Because it lacks the power of the 10mm auto cartridge"

Of course, they get plenty of other stuff wrong, too. Especially gun laws. More screenwriters assuming everywhere is like California.

Pointing a weapon in an unsafe direction with finger on trigger; worse yet - talking on your cell phone while preparing to shoot (unless you are calling 911?) !

Diomed wrote:Of course, they get plenty of other stuff wrong, too. Especially gun laws. More screenwriters assuming everywhere is like California.

Yeah, like gun registration. This guy had an illegal "unregistered" weapon, or they trace a gun instantly to the "registered owner".

cleveoh wrote:I don't understand why the Hero kills a badguy with a revolver and then leaves the badguy's UZI behind? DUDE PICK UP THE UZI !!!!

LOL! Exactly!

My favorite Hollywood firearm scene is one with James Garner in "Support your local Sheriff".I know its impossible,and should peeve me,but I still like when he shoots through the washer. Hey,James is cool like that.

shinyribs wrote:My favorite Hollywood firearm scene is one with James Garner in "Support your local Sheriff".I know its impossible,and should peeve me,but I still like when he shoots through the washer. Hey,James is cool like that.

Not impossible. I've seen Tom Knapp shoot through the hole in a washer with a .22 rifle.

http://www.tomknapp.net/

One of the other offending issues I saw was someone pointing a Glock at someone and then you saw their thumb move and a click like they were freakin pulling back the hammer.... had to change the channel after I saw that one, I knew it wasn't going to be headed anywhere good...