Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Guess it doesn't matter. The world I value is being taken from me, and its a force to reckon with. Mindless and senseless. A selfish generation of lazy farts is going to sell their rights, and with it mine, down the tubes, all because they don't want to work, and want freebees.

Moving is only going to buy me some time. I feel worse for my kids. They will know a much worse world than I did.

To be honest, and I've said it before, the liberals have a long term plan.

We have to start having a strategy that we might not see, but our children's children might.

I'm working for their benefit, to leave this state and hopefully this nation in a good place for them.

To just cut up and run is a quick way to make their small victory into a bigger success.

You know what? I'm thinking of selling everything in excess that I own, and just pulling every dime I have, and find a new country...

This one is about toast.

Reverenddel wrote:You know what? I'm thinking of selling everything in excess that I own, and just pulling every dime I have, and find a new country...

This one is about toast.

If you find one that has the freedom we [technically] enjoy, let me know. I think they have all lost their guns, speech, etc., for the greater good.

The genius country would be? One who ENACTED those freedoms with protections from the selfish azzhats who vote themselves money.


They would pull people in from AROUND the WORLD!

Dear Gawd! Like Mecca, or Bethlehem!

Yep, I did that search a couple of years ago, and didn't come up with squat. I concluded the only way to have more freedom than here, would be some third world country where you'd have to bribe for your rights.

Well, I am off to bed. Hope I can sleep tonight. I am sooo freekin pissed!

These things just make you want to disappear and move out in the middle of nowhere completely cut off from the rest of the World.

Just live off the grid in some underground shipping container lol.

Ugh... the past few years have been like watching the end of star wars episode 3 (the newer one) over and over.

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...and who thinks the ballot box is still a viable option?

There is no option left for the interests of Liberty except the cartridge box...for those with the courage and determination to water the tree. The time hasn't come yet--but it is inevitable.


Some of you ridiculed me for insinuating this yesterday but now I see many of you now talking about running away. Yeah...that's being a patriot. Yeah....right.

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mamabearCali wrote:Can we excommunicate the northern counties, they can have their own state. Why does DC get to take over VA......grrrrrr. Very upset. Not a thing I can do about it.

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Prince William went red, though I am surprised. When I was leaving my voting place a white van filled with people who I recognized from trying to pan handle pulled up and were led to vote.
In line in front of me someone who spoke not a word of English was allowed to vote. His wife Interpreted for him though her English was not very good.
I would not have believed it if I had not seen it. I wonder how many illegals were allowed to vote.

mamabearCali wrote:We will have to see what happens here. If it starts to go towards CO. I will have to consider a move as well. If we can't win with N. va being so blue and the blacks voting against their best interests because they are blinded by Obama. If VA become DC south we will start to make hard decisions. East Texas starts to look real good.

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No offense, but only cowards flee. I choose to stay and fight.

"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother." George Orwell - 1984.

Read it and weep people.

Scott I did not take vows to honor and love and always remain in the great state of Virginia. I go where I choose. There are stares you could not pay me enough to live in. Part of fighting a battle is to know when you've lost and to retreat in time so that a better fighting position can be maintained. If we are to take back this nation we must be smart like Washington who gave up NY to stand tall in Yorktown not stupid like Custer who for ignorance and bravado died a horrible death.

In the words of a great man who no one would call a coward. Davy Crockett. "Y'all can go to hell I am going to Texas."

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Kinda thought this was gonna go arse up. And for those of you blaming everyone that lives close to dc iv got news for you people in your area voted for mcidiot also! Instead of crying over this setback get out and do something come next election!! A small sign on your lawn doesnt count for much! Iv never been political before in my life and only recently woke up and smelled the manure were in! Next election im not gonna sit n hope my 1 vote helps! Im gettin off my arse and helping!!! Remember theres alotta people up north that hate dc! Maybe more than you all do!!

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A little good news to take the edge off the sting.

1. GOP kept their majority in the Va House. This will hopefully keep the Dems at bay.
2. Mid-terms are just a year away. How much pain will Obamacare cause Virginians? A lot. Let's make sure the Dems own it.

And finally, we do have a (R) for Attorney General. So, no clean sweep for the (D)'s this time.

DBJohnson wrote:...and who thinks the ballot box is still a viable option?

There is no option left for the interests of Liberty except the cartridge box...for those with the courage and determination to water the tree. The time hasn't come yet--but it is inevitable.


Some of you ridiculed me for insinuating this yesterday but now I see many of you now talking about running away. Yeah...that's being a patriot. Yeah....right.

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Hell, I've been saying this for years and people probably hate the fact I own guns for it. To put it simply, there needs to be blood spilled to get it back. That's the only way it worked before.

Call me extreme or crazy... but that's the fact of the matter.

Every road to freedom in the history of the world was paved with the blood of tyrants.

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mamabearCali wrote:Scott I did not take vows to honor and love and always remain in the great state of Virginia. I go where I choose. There are stares you could not pay me enough to live in. Part of fighting a battle is to know when you've lost and to retreat in time so that a better fighting position can be maintained. If we are to take back this nation we must be smart like Washington who gave up NY to stand tall in Yorktown not stupid like Custer who for ignorance and bravado died a horrible death.

In the words of a great man who no one would call a coward. Davy Crockett. "Y'all can go to hell I am going to Texas."

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I feel for for you. You aren't alone. I love VA. The scenery and the history. I also love TX and lived there a few years. I always get Misty eyed whenever I hear Amarillo by Morning by George Strait lol, but if I have it my way it would be Montana or North Dakota. The single thing I miss about NY is the snow.

I get to keep my NFA goodies, they are still free, and it's not so damn hot and humid.

I tried to defend this state since I got here. But instead, stupid people that left fallen States for the same reasons I did, don't learn.

In the words of another country music legend,

" You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em,
Know when to walk away and know when to run"



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OakRidgeStars wrote:A little good news to take the edge off the sting.

1. GOP kept their majority in the Va House. This will hopefully keep the Dems at bay.
2. Mid-terms are just a year away. How much pain will Obamacare cause Virginians? A lot. Let's make sure the Dems own it.

And finally, we do have a (R) for Attorney General. So, no clean sweep for the (D)'s this time.

You may want to check those numbers again on the VBE site. Obenshain lost...

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Well based off of ABC Channel 7 website here are the results by county

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2013/11/vi ... 96380.html

Virginia Governor's Race - The Associated Press has declared Terry McAuliffe the winner.
Candidate Party %
Terry McAuliffe Democrat 47.75%
Ken Cuccinelli Republican 45.27%
Robert Sarvis
Libertarian 6.52%



Virginia Lieutenant Governor's Race - Ralph Northam is declared the winner of the lieutenant governor's race
Candidate Party %
Ralph Northam Democrat 55.14%
E.W. Jackson Republican 44.49%



Virginia Attorney General
Candidate Party %
Mark Herring Democrat 49.91%
Mark Obenshain Republican 49.88%



VIRGINIA HOUSE OF DELEGATES RACES

2nd District
Representing Prince William and Stafford counties
Candidate Party %
Michael T. Futrell Democrat 50.56%
L. Mark Dudenhefer Republican 49.18%

5th District
Representing Bristol City, Galax City and the counties of Grayson, Smyth and Washington.
Candidate Party %
Israel O'Quinn Republican 98.68%
Running unopposed NA NA

10th District
Representing Clarke, Frederick and Loudoun counties
Candidate Party %
Monte Johnson Democrat 42.73%
J. Randy Minchew Republican 57.09%

13th District
Representing Manassas Park City
Candidate Party %
Atif M. Qarni Democrat 48.22%
Robert "Bob" Marshall Republican 51.59%

15th District
Representing Page, Rockingham, Shenandoah and Warren counties
Candidate Party %
C. Todd Gilbert Republican 96.39%
Running unopposed NA NA

18th District
Representing Culpeper, Fauquier, Rappahannock and Warren counties
Candidate Party %
Colin Harris Democrat 36.54%
Michael Webert Republican 63.26%

28th District
Representing Fredericksburg City, Stafford County
Candidate Party %
William Howell Republican 90.76%
Running unopposed NA NA

29th District
Representing Winchester City and Frederick and Warren counties
Candidate Party %
Mark Berg Republican 64.99%
Larry Lamar Yates Independent 34.22%

30th District
Representing Culpeper, Madison and Orange counties
Candidate Party %
Traci Dippert Democrat 36.55%
Edward Scott Republican 63.32%

31st District
Representing Fauquier and Prince William counties
Candidate Party %
Jeremy McPike Democrat 49.39%
L. Scott Lingamfelter Republican 50.41%

33rd District
Representing Clarke, Frederick and Loudoun counties
Candidate Party %
Mary Costello Daniel Democrat 42.59%
Dave LaRock Republican 53.82%
Patrick Hagerty Libertarian 3.4%

34th District
Representing Fairfax and Loudoun counties
Candidate Party %
Kathleen Murphy Democrat 49.10%
Barbara Comstock Republican 50.76%

35nd District
Representing Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
Mark Keam Democrat 65.53%
Leiann Luse Republican 34.30%

36th District
Representing Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
Kenneth "Ken" Plum Democrat 93.20%
No contestant N/A N/A

37th District
Representing Fairfax City, Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
David Bulova Democrat 60.84%
Patrice Winter Republican 38.96%

38th District
Representing Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
L. Kaye Kory Democrat 74.30%
James "Jim" Leslie Republican 24.67%

39th District
Representing Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
Vivian Watts Democrat 93.67%
Running uncontested N/A N/A

40th District
Representing Fairfax County, Prince William County
Candidate Party %
Jerry Foltz Democrat 39.71%
Timothy "Tim" Hugo Republican 60.13%

41st District
Representing Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
Eileen Filler-Corn Democrat 56.65%
Fredy Burgos Republican 39.59%
Christopher DeCarlo Independent 3.68%

42nd District
Representing Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
Ed Deitsch Democrat 39.77%
David Albo Republican 60.11%

43rd District
Representing Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
Mark Sickles Democrat 73.56%
G. Gail Parker Independent 25.28%

44th District
Representing Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
Scott Surovell Democrat 71.06%
Joseph "Joe" Glean Independent 28.10%

45th District
Representing Alexandria City, Arlington County, Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
K. Rob Krupicka Democrat 73.66%
Jeffrey Engle Independent 25.29%

46th District
Representing Alexandria City
Candidate Party %
Charniele Herring Democrat 95.66%
Running uncontested N/A N/A

47 District
Representing Arlington County
Candidate Party %
Patrick Hope Democrat 75.97%
Laura Delhomme Libertarian 23.22%

48th District
Representing Arlington County, Fairfax County
Candidate Party %
Robert Brink Democrat 94.48%
Running uncontested N/A N/A

49th District
Representing the counties of Arlington, Fairfax
Candidate Party %
Alfonso Lopez Democrat 77.77%
Terrence Modglin Independent 21.16%

50th District
Representing Manassas City, Prince William County
Candidate Party %
Richard Cabellos Democrat 44.86%
Jackson Hunter Miller Republican 54.84%

51st District
Representing Prince William County
Candidate Party %
R. Reed Heddleston Democrat 46.36%
Richard Anderson Republican 53.44%

52nd District
Representing Prince William County
Candidate Party %
Luke Torian Democrat 94.59%
Running uncontested N/A N/A

53rd District
Representing Fairfax County, Falls Church City
Candidate Party %
Marcus Simon Democrat 66.62%
W. Brad Tidwell Republican 29%
Anthony Tellez Libertarian 4.22%

54th District
Representing Caroline County, Spotsylvania County
Candidate Party %
Robert "Bobby" Orrock Republican 91.20%
Running uncontested N/A N/A

55th District
Representing the counties of Caroline, Hanover and Spotsylvania
Candidate Party %
Toni Radler Democrat 37.47%
H.F. "Buddy" Fowler, Jr. Republican 56.84%
Christopher Sullivan Libertarian 5.54%

56th District
Representing the counties of Goochland, Henrico, Louisa and Spotsylvania
Candidate Party %
Peter Ferrell Republican 95.98%
Running uncontested N/A N/A

67th District
Representing Fairfax County, Loudoun County
Candidate Party %
Hung Nguyen Democrat 45.31%
James "Jim" LeMunyon Republican 54.50%

86th District
Representing Fairfax County, Loudoun County
Candidate Party %
Jennifer Boysko Democrat 49.64%
Thomas Davis Rust Republican 50.13%

87th District
Representing Loudoun County, Prince William County
Candidate Party %
John Bell Democrat 49.19%
David Ramadan Republican 50.42%

88th District
Representing Fauquier County, Fredericksburg City, Spotsylvania County, Stafford County
Candidate Party %
Kathleen O'Halloran Democrat 38.37%
Mark Cole Republican 61.39%

A lot of good points above me here. Rather than try to say something more, here are the salient points I see.

Standing and fighting does not mean a poster on your lawn. Get active. NRA-PVF is already gearing up for next year, lets do the same! Drop a dime, go to your (tea party/liberty/republican) meetings now, rather than later.

A war of attrition is a losing battle. We give them one more state if we run. If we continue to do that, we are talking removing 2A by amendment.

1984 (G. Orwell) is more relevant today than ever before.

We need a message that rings with the masses for the long term, like the democraps' message of "we give you poop". Not sure what is a good one, but maybe along the lines that we are going broke because we arent working, and while we cannot supply freebees, we certainly can develop the economy.

We retained Obenshain as Attorney General. This is very good as he will prosecute only where legal, rather than for agenda (hopefully).

We still have a majority in the legislature, so we can put a curb on crap.

The last one is an ugly one: one day we will have to refresh our trees.

Stay vigilant! I am stuck here for now, so I am doing what I can!