gotta wonder....
gotta wonder....
Lately dems4guns has managed to raise Hell almost every time he has posted and we all have given our opinions regarding his views his beliefs and his character, all of us thats is except for the two self professed liberals on here. I would like to know what Kreutz and Cowboy T think about dems4guns' behaviour, as we all have seen what the right side of the isle thinks about him, I wonder what the left thinks about him. Now I know that you probably agree with his liberal views in principle but that is not what I am getting at. I want to know how you view his ability to stir the pot at every turn.
P.S. If you have stated you opinion before then dont bother posting.
P.P.S. This is not a hostile thread. I'm just courious.
P.S. If you have stated you opinion before then dont bother posting.
P.P.S. This is not a hostile thread. I'm just courious.
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enry David Thoreau
For every thousand people hacking at the branches of evil there is only one hacking at the roots. H
enry David Thoreau
Re: gotta wonder....
As I said before I think he is one of you playing a joke...if I were to create a stereotypical liberal it'd be Dems4Guns.
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Re: gotta wonder....
Technically there is only one person here who could get away with that...Rick since he can see where posts originate...2 different users posting from the same IP and there ya have it...although there might be one or two folks whose spouse also participates...Kreutz wrote:As I said before I think he is one of you playing a joke...if I were to create a stereotypical liberal it'd be Dems4Guns.
Another theory is a liberal out having fun just to see how many folks can be ticked off...personally I find that great sport from both ends...
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Re: gotta wonder....
If you just ignore the trolls, they tend to go away.


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Re: gotta wonder....
I've been on a hiatus for a couple months and just checked back in the other day.
I regret that the threads are locked and I missed all of the fun. I think Rick might castrate me if I stir the pot again.
I regret that the threads are locked and I missed all of the fun. I think Rick might castrate me if I stir the pot again.
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Re: gotta wonder....
Nah - I'm not a big fan of castration - not for forum fouls, anyway.ThereIsNoSpoon wrote:I've been on a hiatus for a couple months and just checked back in the other day.
I regret that the threads are locked and I missed all of the fun. I think Rick might castrate me if I stir the pot again.
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Re: gotta wonder....
It's just my worthless opinion but I don't think that is so much a liberal/conservative political conflict as much as it is a personality conflict. After all, I am a hard core Ron Paul supporter which, by some folks measure, makes me pretty socially liberal.
My impression is that Dem is not exactly the type of guy that comes home with dirt under his finger nails, grabs a few cold ones out of the fridge, heads to the shed to talk trash with the boys until the old lady calls him in for dinner. I am not saying that is a bad thing. I am just saying that I think he might be a little out of his element and just doesn't know how to deal with it.
Then again, maybe I am completely wrong and he is actually CIA sent to infiltrate the cohesion of the militant 2A movement
My impression is that Dem is not exactly the type of guy that comes home with dirt under his finger nails, grabs a few cold ones out of the fridge, heads to the shed to talk trash with the boys until the old lady calls him in for dinner. I am not saying that is a bad thing. I am just saying that I think he might be a little out of his element and just doesn't know how to deal with it.
Then again, maybe I am completely wrong and he is actually CIA sent to infiltrate the cohesion of the militant 2A movement
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Re: gotta wonder....
Now you're describing Gat6...ThereIsNoSpoon wrote:Then again, maybe I am completely wrong and he is actually CIA sent to infiltrate the cohesion of the militant 2A movement
No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...


Re: gotta wonder....
Proxy.zephyp wrote:Technically there is only one person here who could get away with that...Rick since he can see where posts originate...2 different users posting from the same IP and there ya have it...although there might be one or two folks whose spouse also participates...Kreutz wrote:As I said before I think he is one of you playing a joke...if I were to create a stereotypical liberal it'd be Dems4Guns.
Look, if he's a real person OK, but I don't think he is.
Re: gotta wonder....
I'm new to this forum but would have to say his posts seem to be a little over the top I would agree that he could be someone posting as a joke but who knows. I wouldn't call myself a liberal but I wouldn't call myself a conservative either I have mixed views on different things that would qualify on both sides.
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Re: gotta wonder....
I think it's just someone joking around. I can't imagine anyone seriously quoting the VPC on a gun forum just seems like trolling but there is a small chance he truly expects to be taken seriously. I guess he is kinda VGOF's own Gecko45.
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Re: gotta wonder....
You know? I can disagree with Kreutz on things, but overall? He likes guns, he does contribute REGULAR stuff, and he's never openly hostile unless provoked.
He just has a strong opinion about things, and so do I...
I can respect people who take a stand on things, even if I disagree with them, because at least they take a STAND!
Hate wishy-washy folks. Stand for something, or you fall for anything.
He just has a strong opinion about things, and so do I...
I can respect people who take a stand on things, even if I disagree with them, because at least they take a STAND!
Hate wishy-washy folks. Stand for something, or you fall for anything.
Re: gotta wonder....
Ah thanks man, I've tried to tone it down, I think my older posts are on the hostile side at the very least which wasn't cool.Reverenddel wrote:You know? I can disagree with Kreutz on things, but overall? He likes guns, he does contribute REGULAR stuff, and he's never openly hostile unless provoked.
He just has a strong opinion about things, and so do I...
I can respect people who take a stand on things, even if I disagree with them, because at least they take a STAND!
Hate wishy-washy folks. Stand for something, or you fall for anything.
Plus some of "you peoples" ideas have rubbed off on me and I've been really challenged here, which is great.
Other liberal Gat seems to get flak here but he's constructive.
"Dems" is annoying.
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Re: gotta wonder....
I said instantly that he was a democrat infiltrator with 2 goals in mind:
1 - Determine acceptable future gun control legislation
2 - locate and get the assistance of any sympathizers he found here to forward his democrat goals
I think he is also both very young and totally overmatched in both debate as well as intelligence by a vast (right wing) majority here. Good and good riddance to bad rubbish.
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He can FOAD by goongalagoonga
1 - Determine acceptable future gun control legislation
2 - locate and get the assistance of any sympathizers he found here to forward his democrat goals
I think he is also both very young and totally overmatched in both debate as well as intelligence by a vast (right wing) majority here. Good and good riddance to bad rubbish.
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He can FOAD by goongalagoonga
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Re: gotta wonder....
Good stuff, manKreutz wrote:Ah thanks man, I've tried to tone it down, I think my older posts are on the hostile side at the very least which wasn't cool.Reverenddel wrote:You know? I can disagree with Kreutz on things, but overall? He likes guns, he does contribute REGULAR stuff, and he's never openly hostile unless provoked.
He just has a strong opinion about things, and so do I...
I can respect people who take a stand on things, even if I disagree with them, because at least they take a STAND!
Hate wishy-washy folks. Stand for something, or you fall for anything.
Plus some of "you peoples" ideas have rubbed off on me and I've been really challenged here, which is great.
Other liberal Gat seems to get flak here but he's constructive.
"Dems" is annoying.
Re: gotta wonder....
How wrong you are, Tweaker.Tweaker wrote:I said instantly that he was a democrat infiltrator with 2 goals in mind:
1 - Determine acceptable future gun control legislation
2 - locate and get the assistance of any sympathizers he found here to forward his democrat goals
I think he is also both very young and totally overmatched in both debate as well as intelligence by a vast (right wing) majority here. Good and good riddance to bad rubbish.
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He can FOAD by goongalagoonga
Your FOAD is pretty over the top, and yet you complain about ME being annoying? You behavior is horrible, your insults endless and your ability to be friendly nonexistent.
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Re: gotta wonder....
if Tweaker or anyone else told me to FOAD, I'd say "pfft" and move on. Well, I might ban them, but other than that, I'd say pfft.
Get over yourself, dems. Either contribute to the forum like a normal 2A loving human being, or...hmmm...I think I've already given you this warning at least once...
Get over yourself, dems. Either contribute to the forum like a normal 2A loving human being, or...hmmm...I think I've already given you this warning at least once...
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Re: gotta wonder....
It is not nearly as over the top as your high school drama club hand wringing.
Apparently I am not annoying as I have had many great encounters here and also live with many of these members. No complaints from anyone worth a damn.
I have "behaved" in an entirely acceptable manner as my record of no bans/warnings indicates. You are not teh arbiter of this, though you would claim to be so.
I have no shortage of insults for you, as I feel this is warranted as you continually insult our intelligence and strain our acceptance of such nanny state nonsense as you truck in. Suck it up, Gertrude.
I have made quite a few friends here, and we have had great times at fun shoots and camping. I have also offered to help other members with experience, knowledge and other things. What have you to say to compare to that?
You are and will remain a ridiculous caricature of a liberal and one who embarrasses even those you claim to agree with.
Feel free to remain, and I will continue to exercise my 1st amendment rights as I and the moderators see fit. I know that this irritates the fecal matter out of you even more than my possession of my second amendment rights. Enjoy that.
So Cody, did your grandpa really take you to the range, like in the shooter stereotype thread?
Apparently I am not annoying as I have had many great encounters here and also live with many of these members. No complaints from anyone worth a damn.
I have "behaved" in an entirely acceptable manner as my record of no bans/warnings indicates. You are not teh arbiter of this, though you would claim to be so.
I have no shortage of insults for you, as I feel this is warranted as you continually insult our intelligence and strain our acceptance of such nanny state nonsense as you truck in. Suck it up, Gertrude.
I have made quite a few friends here, and we have had great times at fun shoots and camping. I have also offered to help other members with experience, knowledge and other things. What have you to say to compare to that?
You are and will remain a ridiculous caricature of a liberal and one who embarrasses even those you claim to agree with.
Feel free to remain, and I will continue to exercise my 1st amendment rights as I and the moderators see fit. I know that this irritates the fecal matter out of you even more than my possession of my second amendment rights. Enjoy that.
So Cody, did your grandpa really take you to the range, like in the shooter stereotype thread?
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Re: gotta wonder....
You seem to be non-plussed that you joined a firearms website, and met some "resistance" to your invitations to surrender them. That is highly ludicrous.
I have some ideas for you to get your desired level of "dialogue" with perhaps a reduced level of "difficulty" or "rudeness."
Join a pro-life website and see if you can get them to agree to certain times when it is okay to suck the brain matter out of their fetuses and sell what is left for stem cell research.
Join an online website for white supremecists and attempt to extole the virtues of individuals of color and that perhaps they should not paint with so broad a brush.
(I actually did this and with great results. I found them to be astonishingly open to the concept. Who would have thunk it?)
Join Peta.com and try to convince them in their forums to kill 100's of dogs and cats and then dump them in dumpsters under the cover of night...in Newport News.
(Oh scratch that last one. They already did that. No bull.)
Just some ideas for ya to find more amicable participants in your talks, Seymore.
Guns helped found our country.
Guns defended our country from foreign enemies (a rifle will be behind every blade of grass - Yamamoto)
Guns keep our weak, our old and our infirmed safe from evil turds.
You would strip these things from us now, while denying that the above is reality and history.
For those reasons, yes I honestly desire you to FOAD. Mmkay?
I have some ideas for you to get your desired level of "dialogue" with perhaps a reduced level of "difficulty" or "rudeness."
Join a pro-life website and see if you can get them to agree to certain times when it is okay to suck the brain matter out of their fetuses and sell what is left for stem cell research.
Join an online website for white supremecists and attempt to extole the virtues of individuals of color and that perhaps they should not paint with so broad a brush.
(I actually did this and with great results. I found them to be astonishingly open to the concept. Who would have thunk it?)
Join Peta.com and try to convince them in their forums to kill 100's of dogs and cats and then dump them in dumpsters under the cover of night...in Newport News.
(Oh scratch that last one. They already did that. No bull.)
Just some ideas for ya to find more amicable participants in your talks, Seymore.
Guns helped found our country.
Guns defended our country from foreign enemies (a rifle will be behind every blade of grass - Yamamoto)
Guns keep our weak, our old and our infirmed safe from evil turds.
You would strip these things from us now, while denying that the above is reality and history.
For those reasons, yes I honestly desire you to FOAD. Mmkay?
Officially outed waissists: Taggure, Allingeneral, Tweaker, VBShooter, Snaz, Jim, OakRidgeStars, Wylde, clayinva, Komrade Kreutz, scrubber3, Mindflaya'. All the kewl kids are waississ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTsW75KJ ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTsW75KJ ... re=related
Re: gotta wonder....
I think that I have finally figured out his problem...he can't spell. His user name is supposed to be dims4guns! 
Engage your brain!

