The incorporation of the rail was almost inevitable. It allows you to pick the sights/ optic you want. After all you can even get a railed up side by side: http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firear ... efense.php
Keltec understands it can't go into markets that are already flooded like The AR15/M4s or the M1911s. They just aren't going to be taken serious. I am surprised they haven't come out with something like the Crossfire Rifle/ Shotgun Combo.
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You just have to ask yourself, is he telling you the truth based on knowledge and experience or spreading internet myths?
With a projected MSRP of $880, i would assume that the shelf price would be around $600ish? But not sure that the gun justify's a price like that, sure it looks cool, but not to sure about a plastic 12ga.
grumpyMSG wrote:The incorporation of the rail was almost inevitable. It allows you to pick the sights/ optic you want. After all you can even get a railed up side by side: http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firear ... efense.php
Keltec understands it can't go into markets that are already flooded like The AR15/M4s or the M1911s. They just aren't going to be taken serious. I am surprised they haven't come out with something like the Crossfire Rifle/ Shotgun Combo.
Crossfire Combo.jpg
My complaint against the rail is that the irons are flip up. I don't like flip up front sights on ARs either; IMHO they are trouble. I have a fixed front sight on all of my ARs. There should be a rail, but I would prefer a fixed front sight at the very least.
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grumpyMSG wrote:The incorporation of the rail was almost inevitable. It allows you to pick the sights/ optic you want. After all you can even get a railed up side by side: http://www.stoegerindustries.com/firear ... efense.php
Keltec understands it can't go into markets that are already flooded like The AR15/M4s or the M1911s. They just aren't going to be taken serious. I am surprised they haven't come out with something like the Crossfire Rifle/ Shotgun Combo.
Crossfire Combo.jpg
My complaint against the rail is that the irons are flip up. I don't like flip up front sights on ARs either; IMHO they are trouble. I have a fixed front sight on all of my ARs. There should be a rail, but I would prefer a fixed front sight at the very least.
Well you could always put on some DD irons. Don't you have those on your AR?
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I think this will be a very popular shotgun. It's shortness is it's strength and is what allows the gun to be more effectively used from vehicles, in buildings, and in other close combat type situations. The high shell capacity is a big plus too.
Competition is one of the "great levelers" of ego.
the high shell capacity will probably eventually be blocked by legislation.
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Chasbo00 wrote:I think this will be a very popular shotgun. It's shortness is it's strength and is what allows the gun to be more effectively used from vehicles, in buildings, and in other close combat type situations. The high shell capacity is a big plus too.
Hmm, I had not heard about that. Interesting to know. Thanks for posting that little update lol.
That's a bizarre idea.... LEOs have access the "slam-fire" variant while civilians don't... hmm.
If the opportunity to pull and hold a trigger, while racking the slide is really that appealing to you, just pick up a used Model 12 or 1897 Winchester shotgun. Neither of them come with disconnectors.
You just have to ask yourself, is he telling you the truth based on knowledge and experience or spreading internet myths?
Chasbo00 wrote:I think this will be a very popular shotgun. It's shortness is it's strength and is what allows the gun to be more effectively used from vehicles, in buildings, and in other close combat type situations. The high shell capacity is a big plus too.
Chasbo00 wrote:I think this will be a very popular shotgun. It's shortness is it's strength and is what allows the gun to be more effectively used from vehicles, in buildings, and in other close combat type situations. The high shell capacity is a big plus too.
Wow! They need to fix this. A trigger that does not reset is beyond bad.
I wouldn't "jump the gun" on this. It' s only one source and we are still talking about prototypes. Who knows what the finalized version will look like but perhaps they can get this issue sorted. I never heard of Keltec doing anything for LEOs only. I don't know why they would start now.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.”
-Winston Churchill
Hmm, I had not heard about that. Interesting to know. Thanks for posting that little update lol.
That's a bizarre idea.... LEOs have access the "slam-fire" variant while civilians don't... hmm.
If the opportunity to pull and hold a trigger, while racking the slide is really that appealing to you, just pick up a used Model 12 or 1897 Winchester shotgun. Neither of them come with disconnectors.
It's not that it's really that appealing to me, I was just puzzled as to why Kel-Tec might choose to omit that capability.
That short and 14 shots? Why didn't they make it semi-auto?
And, by the way, who the hell needs sights on a shotgun?
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Gun-crazy? Me? I'd say the gun-crazy ones are the ones that don’t HAVE one.
