wylde007 wrote:zephyp wrote:Also, the VCM is a joke. They want to run around in the woods and play pretend soldier, but they won't even remotely entertain the thought that they may be FORCED BY DUTY to engage their own government in war in order to sustain (or recover) liberty.
For that they get the label "cowards" from me.
They are firmly pro-Amerikha. Any talk in defense of Dixie is not tolerated and discussion of secession as a means to restore sovereignty is verboten.
Wow, this is so inaccurate I don't know where to begin. So much has changed with the VCM since we dropped the "'s", abandoned the Virginia Militia Yahoo Group, and reorganized to become Virginia
Citizen Militia.
http://www.virginiacitizenmilitia.org/index.html
True, the VCM is not at war with the federal government. We also do not focus on the war between the states, but instead look at the origins of the militia in Ameri
ca as our model. We require monthly participation as they did in the beginning. We also recommend our members to read Dr Vieira's book, Constitutional Homeland Security to help them better understand our goals. We have talked about one day organizing the VCM to function much like a volunteer fire department, to augment first responders. It is an effort to re-brand the "M" word, and get Virginian's more involved in their own communities.
Those who constantly harp on and on about the North/South thing just don't get it. There are many militia groups in Virginia and they all fall under the same category of
unorganized militia mentioned in the state constitution. Just because someone doesn't get accepted in the VCM (or gets asked to leave), doesn't mean there isn't a group out there that is a better fit.
Heck, we had a member get all bent out of shape because of the kind of camo we decided to wear. Rumor has it he went out and formed the Flecktarn Militia.
I'm not even sure what is meant by "pro-Amerihka". Every member swears or affirm an oath to protect and defend both the Constitution of the United Stated and the Common Wealth of Virginia. We follow all the laws and keep everything legal. Of course this might sound a bit boring to most. We are not at all scary. In fact a few of us escorted a WaPo reporter to an Appleseed Shoot last year.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 05535.html As distasteful as that sounds to some, Dan Zak was very open to getting to know us and ended up shooting a winning score to receive the Rifleman Patch.
As far as "Any talk in defense of Dixie is not tolerated and discussion of secession as a means to restore sovereignty is verboten". That is close, but not very. Like I said earlier. The war between the states is not our focus. I tell the FNGs at the Meet & Greets, the Civil War was an important time during our nations history, but that is not our focus. Training is the focus. We also ask our member to not use the VCM for political expression. That is what the VCDL, GOA, NRA, and TEA Party is for. We are not concerned whether you are an R, D or I, but you must be a legal resident of VA to join. When a member can't show enough self control to keep the politics and pet peeves for another time and place, then how can we trust him/her to have the kind of self control while holding a loaded weapon?
Interesting post. It should be noted that you post quoted zephyp but I believe wylde007 said it. I would like to know more about VCM. You mentioned training once a month. Who trains you? How well organized are you? Large numbers or small numbers? Rank system?