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[GS78]

I will have an AR one day. One day...

Don't wait too long. Between the economy and the administration, social unrest like the LA riots is not far fetched. Having an AR means you likely won't need to use it (like those LA shop keepers). Not having it likely means you will wish you did.

Just my two cents. Let me adjust my

Shoot, no need for the In the LA riots, the untold story was that shopkeepers of Asian background were targeted. Being half-Japanese, half-Scots-Irish-AmerIndian means ignorant idiots of every race may come knocking. When social unrest happens, I want to be prepared - part of the reason I got into shooting.

I agree on the red dot. I've been thinking (only so much I can look at this code and Excel and email before a long weekend), and I never get to shoot past 100m. Now, which one....

You won't see "L.A. style " riots anywhere near here. You may see them on TV from places like Detroit, L.A., (hell Cleveland or Buffalo everyday of the week looks like that.) If you live in an area that has "allowed" the people to arm themselves[ as Virginia has] there is a very small chance of any type of such unrest, unless we are invaded. The big difference is that in those cities most gun owners are already criminals.

[GS78]

someone sent me this today:This is the kind of place we will see riots.{and in my opinion, when we do see them, they should be put down with deadly force like any invasion would be.}

Welcome to Maywood, Mexico
by Roger Hedgecock

06/25/2010



Boasting a population that is 97% Hispanic, more than half foreign born, and 40% illegal, the Los Angeles County, Calif., incorporated city of Maywood has achieved the Reconquista goal. It is now as lawless and chaotic as any place in Mexico. Maywood is a warning to every city and town in America.

The Maywood City Council announced this week that after years of radical policies, corruption and scandal, the city was broke and all city employees would be laid off and essential city services contracted out to neighboring cities or to L.A. County government.

How did this happen? Until recently, Maywood was the model for "brown power" politics.

Maywood was the first California city with an elected Hispanic City Council, one of the first "sanctuary" cities for illegal aliens, the first city to pass a resolution calling for a boycott of Arizona after that state passed a law to enforce federal immigration laws, the first California city to order its police department not to enforce state laws requiring drivers to have licenses to drive, the first American city to call on Congress to grant amnesty to all illegals.

Council meetings were conducted in Spanish. Maywood was the leader in the peaceful, democratic achievement of the La Raza goal to take power in the U.S.

The City of Maywood started out quite differently. Back after World War II, Maywood was a booming blue-collar town with good jobs, a multi-ethnic suburb of Los Angeles.

On the 25th anniversary in 1949 of Maywood's incorporation as a city, the town celebrated with a beard-growing contest, a rodeo, and wrestling matches in City Park. Chrysler operated an assembly plant there until 1971.

But the early 1970s saw these industrial jobs in aerospace, auto and furniture manufacturing, and food processing evaporate under the pressure of higher taxes, increased local and state regulation, and the attraction of cheaper land and cheaper labor elsewhere.

The multi-ethnic Maywood of the post-war years was transformed in the ’80s and ’90s by wave after wave of Hispanic immigrants, many of them illegal.

In August 2006, a "Save Our State" anti-illegal immigration rally in Maywood drew hundreds of protesters—but a larger number of defenders of illegal immigration. The pro-illegal protesters carried signs which read "We are Indigenous ! The ONLY owners of this Continent!" and "Racist Pilgrims Go Home" and "All Europeans are Illegal Here."

According to newspaper reports at the time, objectors to illegal aliens were subject to physical attacks. A 70-year-old man was "slashed," a woman attacked, and cars vandalized. Pro-illegal demonstrators raised the Mexican flag at the U.S. Post Office.

The illegal population and their sympathizers became increasingly radicalized. Elections to the City Council saw "assimilationist" incumbent Hispanic council members ousted by La Raza supporting radical challengers.

For years, the Maywood City Council authorized police checkpoints to stop drunk driving. Drivers without licenses had their cars impounded. Illegals in California cannot get drivers licenses. By 2005, the number of such impounds were in the hundreds. A community campaign was launched forcing the City Council to suspend the checkpoints.

Cars were still being impounded whenever a police traffic-violation stop resulted in a driver without a license. Felipe Aguirre, a community activist with Comite Pro-Uno, an "immigration service center," coordinated a new campaign against any impounds. He was elected in 2005 to the City Council. He is the mayor of Maywood today.

Aguirre and a new majority of the council dismantled the Traffic Department. Illegals were given overnight-parking permits and impounds stopped. You didn't need a license to drive in Maywood. The Los Angeles Times wrote glowingly of this "progress" in a story entitled "Welcome to Maywood, Where Roads Open Up For Immigrants".

The Maywood Police Department was restructured by the new council. A new chief and new officers were hired. Later it turned out that many of the new officers had previously been fired from other law enforcement agencies for a variety of infractions. The Maywood P.D. was known as the "Department of Second Chances."

Among those hired was a former L.A. Sheriff's deputy terminated for abusing jail inmates; a former LAPD officer fired for intimidating a witness; and an ex-Huntington Park officer charged with negligently discharging a handgun and driving drunk.

Even the L.A. Times called the Maywood Police Department a "haven for misfit cops." Their story alleged that a veteran officer was extorting sex from relatives of a criminal fugitive; that another officer tried to run over the president of the Maywood Police Commission; and that another officer has impregnated a teenage police-explorer scout.

Charges of corruption and favoritism led to one recall of city council members and threats of more recalls are heard to this day.

Maywood is represented in the state Senate by Democrat "One Bill" Gil Cedillo. He earned the nickname by introducing every year in the state legislature a bill to grant drivers licenses to illegals. Maywood is represented in Congress by Democrat Lucille Roybal-Allard, a staunch advocate of amnesty for illegals.

Today, Maywood is broke. Its police department dismantled along with all other city departments and personnel. Only the city council remains and a city manager to manage the contracts with other agencies for city services in Maywood.

Maywood is the warning of what happens when illegal immigrants, resisting assimilation as Americans, bring with their growing numbers the corruption and the radical politics of their home countries. Add the radical home-grown anti-Americanism of Hispanic "leaders" and groups like La Raza and you get schools where learning is replaced with indoctrination, business and jobs replaced by welfare and gangs, and a poisonous stew of entitlement politics.

In too many American communities, this sad tale is all too familiar.



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Roger Hedgecock is a nationally-syndicated radio talk host. Visit rogerhedgecock.com. The Roger Hedgecock Show is syndicated on the Radio America network.

[gunderwood]

You won't see "L.A. style " riots anywhere near here. You may see them on TV from places like Detroit, L.A., (hell Cleveland or Buffalo everyday of the week looks like that.) If you live in an area that has "allowed" the people to arm themselves[ as Virginia has] there is a very small chance of any type of such unrest, unless we are invaded. The big difference is that in those cities most gun owners are already criminals.

I hope you are right, but Woodbridge? Springfield? Richmond? Etc? These places are full of people who are not armed (except the gangs) and already have lots of tension.

[Diomed]

You won't see "L.A. style " riots anywhere near here. You may see them on TV from places like Detroit, L.A., (hell Cleveland or Buffalo everyday of the week looks like that.) If you live in an area that has "allowed" the people to arm themselves[ as Virginia has] there is a very small chance of any type of such unrest, unless we are invaded. The big difference is that in those cities most gun owners are already criminals.

I hope you are right, but Woodbridge? Springfield? Richmond? Etc? These places are full of people who are not armed (except the gangs) and already have lots of tension.

I agree with this, in that those places will have issues that most likely will be self-limiting.

What concerns me is what the average suburbanite will get up to if things get epically bad. If you and your kids are starving, looting and rioting are probable outcomes.

[grumpyMSG]

So humor me....


Why did someone's seeking advice about a sighting system for his Ruger AR end up talking about riots in VA?



Mindflayer, as for your thinking about the Comp M4S, it is a great sight and I like the lower battery position on it versus it being up high on the regular Comp M4. Good luck with whatever you select.

[Diomed]

So humor me....


Why did someone's seeking advice about a sighting system for his Ruger AR end up talking about riots in VA?

As young threads grow up, something wonderful and magical happens to them. They mature, and they start to drift.

What's drifting, you ask? Uh ... go ask your mother.

[gunderwood]

So humor me....


Why did someone's seeking advice about a sighting system for his Ruger AR end up talking about riots in VA?

As young threads grow up, something wonderful and magical happens to them. They mature, and they start to drift.

What's drifting, you ask? Uh ... go ask your mother.

Yes, these young threads usually rely on a offhand remark which they take to heart and from that point forward, is the central meaning of their existence.

[Diomed]

Yes, these young threads usually rely on a offhand remark which they take to heart and from that point forward, is the central meaning of their existence.

It's important to teach your threads about drifting yourself, otherwise they'll learn about it on the street, or on the playground.

[zephyp]

You won't see "L.A. style " riots anywhere near here. You may see them on TV from places like Detroit, L.A., (hell Cleveland or Buffalo everyday of the week looks like that.) If you live in an area that has "allowed" the people to arm themselves[ as Virginia has] there is a very small chance of any type of such unrest, unless we are invaded. The big difference is that in those cities most gun owners are already criminals.

I hope you are right, but Woodbridge? Springfield? Richmond? Etc? These places are full of people who are not armed (except the gangs) and already have lots of tension.

Yep. I live in Springfield and its becoming very Hispanic...I prefer Mexican but I'm sure they come from several countries south. Drive down Route 1 towards Mount Vernon or Little River Turnpike in Annandale to see whats going on up here...I'd be willing to lay good money down that there are just as many illegals (if not more) up here than there are in AZ...

[Mindflayer]

I don't know how some people on forums say they are a 6' skinny dude weighing 130# wearing skin tight tshirts and able to wear the XD SC and not have the grip print.

[zephyp]

I don't know how some people on forums say they are a 6' skinny dude weighing 130# wearing skin tight tshirts and able to wear the XD SC and not have the grip print.

Hey, I caught on to this internet business long ago...everyone on a chat site is extremely fit, rich, and good looking. All guys drive flashy sports cars and all women are slim busty blondes...

[gunderwood]

I don't know how some people on forums say they are a 6' skinny dude weighing 130# wearing skin tight tshirts and able to wear the XD SC and not have the grip print.

Hey, I caught on to this internet business long ago...everyone on a chat site is extremely fit, rich, and good looking. All guys drive flashy sports cars and all women are slim busty blondes...

Ah, isn't the internet amazing? Its' power knows no bounds!

[Mindflayer]

Hey, I caught on to this internet business long ago...everyone on a chat site is extremely fit, rich, and good looking. All guys drive flashy sports cars and all women are slim busty blondes...

Can you give me the URL of this site? I wouldn't mind a new car.

[Mindflayer]

Since the other thread devolved into an argument over OC and CC, I'll post in this one.

I've been carrying for about a week now (might as well exercise that license) and took more training today at SEG. I am using the Crossbreed Supertuck, which I find more comfortable than the Galco Summer Comfort. I carry my XD 9mm subcompact since it has a shorter grip and prints less on my frame. My other handgun is the XDM 9mm with a full size grip. I have a couple of questions about the technical side of carrying now.

1. I wear between a 32-34 waist. The jeans I normally wear are a 33, and a bit loose. I can wear the holster in absolute comfort some days and with some discomfort others. Today was the latter, but it wasn't too bad, even with the 4 hour training and then a dinner in Reston. That said, more comfort would be better. Do you guys normally go up 2" for your "CC pants?" I put that in quotes, since I assume there will be days I do not carry due to work (can't carry inside the building) and travel.

2. Where do you wear your gun? I wear mine at 4 o'clock since it is the most comfortable for me and seems to print less.

3. OWB - I normally wear an untucked polo or long sleeved shirt and jeans. I'm wondering if buying, say, a Blackhawk Serpa CQC would be better for fitted clothing. Do you guys find that the concealment when carrying OWB is compromised greatly?

4. How do you handle wearing shorts? Walking around in some place like Reston with 97ºF weather and humidity is not always comfortable.

Thanks in advance!

[zephyp]

I generally wear an IWB with my regular trousers and it fits ok. Sometimes when I'm in shorts and sandals I'll slip a .25 into a cargo pocket. If my belt buckle (I generally dont wear one) is at 12 then I also wear the IWB around 4 about 2 inches forward of my wallet. In warmer months I carry a .380 for smaller print unless I'm in the bush then I carry a .45.

Btw, I have 2 leather IWBs and an Uncle Mikes black fabric. The leather are Bianchi Pro models and ride low in the waist, nice and comfortable. The UM rides higher is also comfortable and gives a bigger print but I generally carry it for large frames that I cant find a suitable Pro model for. I favor no retention and Bianchi does not make this model for Beretta 92 (a favorite carry for me) or a Baby Eagle (.45 auto) which is another favorite carry.

Edit: a lot of folks wont carry anything less than a .380 and even balk at its stopping power. I dont worry when I carry the .25 or .380. The .25 has 9 shots and is plenty to stop an assailant. Its accurate and stopping power is primarily dependent on shot placement. A .25 or .45 well placed will both put an attacker down. Yes, I know some of you will argue heavy clothing, etc but I only carry a .25 when most people are running around half nekid...

[gunderwood]

Edit: a lot of folks wont carry anything less than a .380 and even balk at its stopping power. I dont worry when I carry the .25 or .380. The .25 has 9 shots and is plenty to stop an assailant. Its accurate and stopping power is primarily dependent on shot placement. A .25 or .45 well placed will both put an attacker down. Yes, I know some of you will argue heavy clothing, etc but I only carry a .25 when most people are running around half nekid...

As you go down in caliber and power, the effectiveness falls off. There is no line though on what may work. You can't say anything smaller than a .380 won't work. Shot placement and bullet design are critical. It is possible to say that statistically a .32ACP is less effective than a 380, which is less than 9mm. I personally draw the line at a 380. Going smaller than that doesn't shrink the guns size much (compared to my Ruger LCP). Recoil is not bad either. However, a 9mm in a similar package is harder to shoot and has sufficient recoil to cause some shooters problems.

I carry the LCP in my pocket. If I am going to hang something off of my belt, I will at least a Glock 19/26. OWB holsters are much more comfortable, if you can find shirts that cover them. A lot of the tactical shirts (like 5.11) are semi-dress (button down) shirts which are cut so they don't look funny/messy untucked. That is generally what I do, wear a nice loose fitting shirt and leave it untucked. The only problem is that CC shirts don't come in the bright colors my wife likes to buy!

[Mindflayer]

I guess it is true - you end up buying more than one gun and one holster. I'm getting mixed feedback about the LCR. I didn't find it painful to shoot, as some say, but others question the wisdom of carrying in a pocket. I guess I would rather have one in the pocket than nothing at all.

I think another holster won't hurt. Maybe the Serpa CQC....

[gunderwood]

I use a pocket holster like this: http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG3.asp?P ... &GunID=403

It protects the trigger (I don't carry anything else in that pocket) and I find it can work in your rear pockets as well (it looks just like a wallet).

[zephyp]

I use a pocket holster like this: http://www.usgalco.com/HolsterPG3.asp?P ... &GunID=403

It protects the trigger (I don't carry anything else in that pocket) and I find it can work in your rear pockets as well (it looks just like a wallet).

The good thing about that is if carried in the right pocket you can draw easily. If carried like your wallet you might not be able to draw as quick but if someone wants your wallet then... Maybe I'll get one of those for my .25...

[newdovo]

I'm getting mixed feedback about the LCR. I didn't find it painful to shoot, as some say, but others question the wisdom of carrying in a pocket. I guess I would rather have one in the pocket than nothing at all.

I carry a S&W J-frame airweight (similar in size & weight to the LCR) both in the pocket or concealed OWB, depending on my attire for the day. It conceals well OWB under an untucked shirt, but having the right holster, high & tight, makes the difference.
As far as carrying in the pocket, I use a pocket holster, too. Mine's the fabric one from Blackhawk; need something to cover the trigger guard and break up the outline. If drawing from a pocket may not seem quite as quick, it does allow you to put your hand on the gun without alarming others if your situational awareness Spidey-sense starts tingling.