What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
Did Trump sell us out? What is/should be his next move?
If he accepts the bill I think the gun industry is domed, immigration will flood the USA and the quality of life will deteriorate.
Think he is giving up on his support base?
https://www.vox.com/2018/3/22/17151442/ ... wall-trump
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018 ... go-wobbly/
If he accepts the bill I think the gun industry is domed, immigration will flood the USA and the quality of life will deteriorate.
Think he is giving up on his support base?
https://www.vox.com/2018/3/22/17151442/ ... wall-trump
https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2018 ... go-wobbly/
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Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
We got stabbed in the back with the single largest percentage and dollar amount expansion of the government... ever.
Oh, and they block any additional spending on the wall and border security.
What a giant F'ing joke.
Oh, and they block any additional spending on the wall and border security.
What a giant F'ing joke.
Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
GOP and Democrats Fully Fund a Border Wall – In Jordan
http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/20 ... ordanians/
Why the f*** we have to borrow money to give them to other countries???
http://www.breitbart.com/immigration/20 ... ordanians/
Why the f*** we have to borrow money to give them to other countries???
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Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
What the hell? Hippocrates period every last one of them.
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Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
What Happened?
What always happens, the republicans caved and we get screwed again.
What always happens, the republicans caved and we get screwed again.
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Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
What we got today from Trump:
- Omnibus bill (with included gun control)
- CLOUD bill - your data is shared without warrant
- Bump stock ban
- declared support for DACA amnesty
- 1.8 billion to fully fund border walls in Middle East
I'm done.
- Omnibus bill (with included gun control)
- CLOUD bill - your data is shared without warrant
- Bump stock ban
- declared support for DACA amnesty
- 1.8 billion to fully fund border walls in Middle East
I'm done.
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Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
I'm furious! This President Has betrayed this party. I shouldn't be shocked, since he was a registered Democrat for most of his life, I saw this coming. It still hurts. What a jerk.
I sent this letter to my Congress members. I plan on making some phone calls too.
I sent this letter to my Congress members. I plan on making some phone calls too.
I am writing you today about a potential critical breakdown in our government and rule of law. Today, the President made a statement that he instructed the Department of Justice to issue a rule, making bump stocks illegal. Neither the President nor the DOJ have authority to take such action. Per Constitutional law, it is solely the task of Legislature to pass laws.
There are no laws in the United States that outlaw bump stocks. Bump stocks do not make a semi-automatic rifle a machine gun. By federal laws such as the National Firearms act and the Gun Control Act of America, a machine gun has a very specific definition, which most definitely does not encompass bump stocks or any similar products. The Department of Justice, specifically the BATFE, has authority to define rules that clarify federal law restricting machine guns and other firearms. They are not allowed to expand laws to encompass new items. An act of Congress is required to either amend or pass new laws.
While no one may agree on everything, I hope you will agree that the rule of law and upholding the Constitution of the United States is paramount. I hope that I can count on you to work with House leadership to stop the President from seizing power not Constitutionally entrusted to him. I hope that I can count on you and our Representatives to support the will of the States and the People, using the legislative process to enact new laws or not.
Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
Just another bit of proof of the leftward shift of our political landscape over the last 25 years. The repukelicans have never had any intention of of reversing the course we've had over the last 50 years. Democrats have been running as Repukes for many years and winning elections. We have now, a strong liberal influence in the R party. 25 Years ago, we had both parties against gummint healthcare for all ... now we have both parties not only fighting for it, but fighting to make it bigger and more intrusive. That's a glaring example of the political shift we've had.
This new omnibus is just a re-affirmation of our elitist leaders thinking they are our rulers and will do as they please, regardless of what they said previously.
Once they get inside the beltway, they aren't Dems or Repukes ... they are the Uniparty and they have proven it time and time again.
Trump should have vetoed the bill, but I would say it still would have passed. The votes in favor of it were 65, so one more vote would have made it veto-proof.
I gave up on the R party in 2008, supporting Baldwin for the presidency then, and although I did vote for Trump mostly because of the Supreme Court situation, i can't see me doing it again now in 2020.
The immigration issue has become a disaster, Obamacare will never be repealed regardless of the tweaks they do to it. The only thing the repukelicans can hang their hat on is the tax cuts that took them almost a year to do.
Good or bad, I just can't see me ever lifting a finger to help the R party ever again. they aren't what they were, and they certainly aren't what they claim to be every election cycle.
This new omnibus is just a re-affirmation of our elitist leaders thinking they are our rulers and will do as they please, regardless of what they said previously.
Once they get inside the beltway, they aren't Dems or Repukes ... they are the Uniparty and they have proven it time and time again.
Trump should have vetoed the bill, but I would say it still would have passed. The votes in favor of it were 65, so one more vote would have made it veto-proof.
I gave up on the R party in 2008, supporting Baldwin for the presidency then, and although I did vote for Trump mostly because of the Supreme Court situation, i can't see me doing it again now in 2020.
The immigration issue has become a disaster, Obamacare will never be repealed regardless of the tweaks they do to it. The only thing the repukelicans can hang their hat on is the tax cuts that took them almost a year to do.
Good or bad, I just can't see me ever lifting a finger to help the R party ever again. they aren't what they were, and they certainly aren't what they claim to be every election cycle.
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Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
I wanted President Trump to Veto the bill....Can't give up on him just yet. He's still a thousand times better than what we could have had . AND a MILLION times better than what we DID have !
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Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
Randy, that's pretty much how I see it.
As I pointed out in the other thread on this topic, I knew that he would inevitably do something that would disappoint me. And I expect more disappointment, as time goes on. However, he's done some pretty amazing things, up until now, as well. I figure that he'll probably do more of that, too.
On the whole, as disappointing as this bill is, Trump is still the least toxic President we've had in a long time.
It's also worth noting that Trump is fighting both the Democrats, and the Republican Wing of the Democrat Party (as Wilkow puts it). The Country really needs to help him out, and elect some congressmen that will work with him, and not against him. I imagine that the recent Democrat wins have got to be somewhat disheartening for him.
People seem to forget the importance of Congressional elections.
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As I pointed out in the other thread on this topic, I knew that he would inevitably do something that would disappoint me. And I expect more disappointment, as time goes on. However, he's done some pretty amazing things, up until now, as well. I figure that he'll probably do more of that, too.
On the whole, as disappointing as this bill is, Trump is still the least toxic President we've had in a long time.
It's also worth noting that Trump is fighting both the Democrats, and the Republican Wing of the Democrat Party (as Wilkow puts it). The Country really needs to help him out, and elect some congressmen that will work with him, and not against him. I imagine that the recent Democrat wins have got to be somewhat disheartening for him.
People seem to forget the importance of Congressional elections.
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Re: What happened with the Omnibus Deal?
I will continue to trust Trump. We'll have to see how this plays out. I suspect that with such a large mess of a bill, that there is plenty in there to manipulate to a Trump advantage. Also, he's given notice that it ain't gonna happen again. Remember, this is a short term spending bill (until Sept), not a budget bill.
Is the southern border a national security issue? I would say yes. So...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html
Is the southern border a national security issue? I would say yes. So...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html
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Trump is a "populist", he doesn't truly care about the Constitution. He wanted to be elected, and knew there were folks NOT happy with Hillary...
.... and there ya' go.
People complain about the government, but never about their representatives. I hated Eric Cantor, he was a slimy "car-salesman". And I worked to get rid of him. I wish more people took an active interest to rid ourselves of bad politicians.
.... and there ya' go.
People complain about the government, but never about their representatives. I hated Eric Cantor, he was a slimy "car-salesman". And I worked to get rid of him. I wish more people took an active interest to rid ourselves of bad politicians.
