There goes the "for sale" sections

[P99]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-of ... d-make-our

A person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms regardless of the location in which firearm transactions are conducted. For example, a person can be engaged in the business of dealing in firearms even if the person only conducts firearm transactions at gun shows or through the Internet. Those engaged in the business of dealing in firearms who utilize the Internet or other technologies must obtain a license, just as a dealer whose business is run out of a traditional brick-and-mortar store.

Quantity and frequency of sales are relevant indicators. There is no specific threshold number of firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensure requirement. But it is important to note that even a few transactions, when combined with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish that a person is “engaged in the business.” For example, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold or when only one or two transactions took place, when other factors also were present.

[P99]

This seems like quite the stretch though. When does a firearms transaction actually take place? Negotiated online? Or in person during the actual transaction? Seems like he is trying to say merely communicating or informing others of intent to sell qualifies now for his definition.

[MarcSpaz]

That's a bunch of crap. Two years ago I sold 5 older cars that I owned for about a year, and then bought a few new ones. Then last years I sold 3 of those newer cars and bought 4 new ones I sold 8 cars in an 18 month time span. Does that make me a used car dealer?

[MNMGoneShooting]

That makes you indecisive

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[MarcSpaz]

LOL... maybe a little.

[Reverenddel]

Screw that. I'm about ready to post some stuff in a few days. Nothing fancy, but to hell with the long legged liar in chief. Took me a long time to figure out what to part with.

[MarcSpaz]

Basically, he is trying to say that every transaction will require a background check. The only way this can be enforced is if every owner registers as a gun owner and registers every weapon they own. Then, you would be forced to keep transaction records, including the confirmation number for the background check approvals for 20 years (basically forever). Anything else will lead to jail time.

The problem is that we all know history taught us the registration leads to confiscation. Once we are disarmed, we have no power. We're close to not having any now. I can't imagine how bad it would get.

[ShotgunBlast]

There is no specific threshold number of firearms purchased or sold that triggers the licensure requirement. But it is important to note that even a few transactions, when combined with other evidence, can be sufficient to establish that a person is “engaged in the business.” For example, courts have upheld convictions for dealing without a license when as few as two firearms were sold or when only one or two transactions took place, when other factors also were present.

In other words, "you're in the business when we put the handcuffs on you and say you're in the business."

[SHMIV]

Yeah, SB, I do believe you nailed it. It's intentionally vague.

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[mamabearCali]

And charge you with what crime. Executive order is not law. You have to violate a law to be charge with a crime.



He is unmitigated bastard who should be impeached and then tried for treason. He should spend the rest of his days in a orange jumpsuit, but because he is the right color he will not even get a scratch.

I just can't even. I mean. This is beyond. He is violating the social contract of this nation. He is one man acting so far outside his authority he should be in the slammer tonight.

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[MarcSpaz]

We can only dream.

[mamabearCali]

Yeah..... But that is what should happen.

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[MarcSpaz]

Fully agree, but the Feds are worried about the black-eye (excuse the pun) on US history for jailing the first half white, half black, non-US born, Muslim dictator.... sorry, I mean president.

[mamabearCali]

Well perhaps those flipping cowards should take G-D
History course! This is powder keg issue. Keep pushing idiots.

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[SHMIV]

MamaBear, I do believe that this thread contains the strongest language that I've ever read you use.

Indeed, Mr. Soetoro should be tried and convicted on multiple counts of treason, along with a few others up there in DC.

But, I believe in the classic punishment for treason. The thought of paying for the room and board of traitors, for the rest of their worthless lives, is repugnant to me.

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[Swampman]

We'll be paying his room and board anyway . . . when he leaves office. Then he'll get a state sponsored funeral when he croaks. We're footing the bill for this azzhat and his wench for the rest of his unnatural life.

So, why not give him that while he is in prison? It'll probably be cheaper.

[mamabearCali]

Yeah.....trying to incite violence and subverting our nation rule by trying to be a modern King George does anger me beyond anything I can take.

The cowards in DC are so worried about pleasing a leftist media that will never ever love them that they won't stand up and do their duty. They all stood and up and swore and oath. This is the time that impeachment was created for. And because we are governed by men that are by and large A. cowards and B traitors themselves NOTHiNG will be done and we are betrayed.

It is not just our president that is blowing up the foundations of our nation it is the yellow, sorry, wretches in DC that are sitting there watching him do it and they have the authority and the responsibility to stop him and they do nothing. They sit there like fat vultures feasting on Americas carcass when they made a vow to be guard dogs defending her. When things eventually go sideways and they will the way this thing is going and people get hurt it will be their greed and cowardice that did it. I think I hate them more than I hate Obama.

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[wittmeba]

I'd look to Chicago and Detroit to have a rush of applicants for FFL and business licenses. All the street-corner gun dealers will follow the law won't they?

[skeeterss0]

he's just diverting the publics eye from his failed foreign policy........making everyone look at his failed domestic policies.

[mmckee1952]

I get really tired of hearing Barack saying, “If it will only save one child” & “90% of Americans are behind expanded background checks”. We all know these quotes are just bull poop democratic talking points.

If they would enforce the laws and regulations that are currently on the books then that would make a dent into the gun’s that get in the hands of people who shouldn’t obtain them?

Only 15% of the people who falsify their information on the NICS form are prosecuted for lying on this federal form and we all know that criminals don’t go through a background check, so it goes back to, if they would enforce the laws and regulations that are currently on the books and require that everyone who’s identified as being violent in regards to wanting to harm someone, that their name be entered into the NICS data base, it’s that simple.