About Swiss gun laws, etc............

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Excellent read

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Yep.
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“Since 1291, when the landsgemeinden (people's assemblies) formed circles in the village squares, and only men carrying swords could vote, weapons have been the mark of citizenship. As a Military Department spokesman said, "It is an old Swiss tradition that only an armed man can have political rights." This policy is based on the understanding that only those who bear the burden of keeping Switzerland free are entitled to fully enjoy the benefits of freedom.”
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-I like that. If we must consider European models, I vote for this one.

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“In Cities With Little Crime, author Marshall Clinard contrasts the low crime rate in Switzerland with the higher rate in Sweden, where gun control is more extensive. The higher Swedish rate is all the more surprising in view of Sweden's much lower population density and its ethnic homogeneity. One of the reasons for the low crime rate, says Clinard, is that Swiss cities grew relatively slowly. Most families live for generations in the same area. Therefore, large, heterogeneous cities with slum cultures never developed.”
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-So, we should ban big cities? OK by me.

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This is one of the best-crafted discussion of these issues I have seen. Someone should send it to our two US Senators.
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Anybody know any good sources of more recent information on Swiss gun laws/procedures?
I've been reposting that link on other forums with the one note that "Handgun Control, Inc." is now the "Brady Campaign".
I would LOVE to have verified, up to date, facts on this subject.
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I like that; can't vote if you are unarmed. I think I just added that to my list of voting requirements.

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SHMIV wrote:I like that; can't vote if you are unarmed. I think I just added that to my list of voting requirements.
In that case, if you haven't already, I suggest you read Heinlein's "Starship Troopers". The book, the movie(s) are CRAP.
"Starship Troopers" used to be on the reading lists of all four US Military academies.
There several concepts in the world described that I'd like to see re-instituted.
Public corporal punishment: handled as soon after the trial as a crowd of witnesses can be assembled.
Capitol punishment: NO insanity plea. If you're crazy we don't need you. Remove psychopaths from the gene pool ASAP.
The franchise goes to those that COMPLETE their federal service. Any that apply must be taken into the service no matter what. Up to that point you have all other rights but no say in the government.

The book explains all of the above completely, quite well, with numerous examples.
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