Who got the better deal, America or Iran

[mmckee1952]

Who do you believe is telling the truth about the Iran nuclear deal, Obama or Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei? Both are saying that they got the best deal.

Obama is saying that their nuclear weapons capability has been removed and Iran’s leader says their nuclear enrichment hasn’t changed. One of these aholes is lying, and considering Obamas track record where it comes to telling the truth, I myself am leaning towards Iran’s leader is the one telling the truth.

[SHMIV]

If Iran is boasting about the deal, then clearly the Emperor is lying. If we actually DID get the better deal, I would imagine that Iran would be quite vocal in their displeasure.

Besides, given that Barry has never been truthful on anything else that he's told us, why would he start now?

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[ShotgunBlast]

I would imagine the truth lies somewhere between their rhetoric. After all, they're both trying to sell the deal to their citizens without looking weak.

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[FiremanBob]

Nobody has yet given me a believable explanation of why we were "negotiating" anything with the Islamofascists in the first place.

Negotiations take place when both sides need an outcome that will enable them to work together on something of mutual benefit. On what project does the United States need to collaborate with Iran that would motivate our representatives to talk to them at all?

Nothing. Zero is doing this for his own personal purposes at the expense of the welfare of the United States. Some day, when all the facts are out, he will be tried for treason.

But not if his party is allowed to steal the 2016 elections.

[dorminWS]

Who do you believe is telling the truth about the Iran nuclear deal, Obama or Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei? Both are saying that they got the best deal.

Obama is saying that their nuclear weapons capability has been removed and Iran’s leader says their nuclear enrichment hasn’t changed. One of these aholes is lying, and considering Obamas track record where it comes to telling the truth, I myself am leaning towards Iran’s leader is the one telling the truth.

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Actually, I'd say BOTH of those assholes are lying. Obama is lying about getting the better part of the deal (for the USA, that is; but not for Obama). Ayatollah Ali Khamenei? is lying about having any intention of keeping to any deal he makes.

Actually, for a deal to happen at all, both sides must perceive some benefit to themselves. And if a truly good is struck, both sides actually would believe they got the better part of the deal. But that involves perceptions, opinions, and motives (including all kinds of ulterior ones); not facts. If both sides of THIS deal actually believe they got the better part of the deal, then their perceptions, opinions, and motives certainly do nor serve the best interests of the USA. So if there is any efficacy to what I have posited here, then Obama is obviously making the deal for his own ulterior motives and is the bigger liar of the two.

[mmckee1952]

The more we hear from the leaders of Iran, saying what they will do or not do concerning this deal is a direct opposite to what Obama and Kerry are saying. There are more problems in this deal than meets the eye.

We had Iran on their knees with the sanctions and Iran wanted to broker a deal because of them and then Obama & Kerry get in there and screw everything up.

It’s as if Obama & Kerry are on Iran’s side with all the concessions they want to give away.

[FiremanBob]

After what the Ayatollah said today, could someone explain why we haven't pulled all our "negotiating team" out of Switzerland and told Iran to pound sand?

That Obama's people have not walked out from the talks after this insult says everything about them.

One more thought: Nobody can win a Presidential election (much less steal one) and be stupid or naive. What this suggests about the real motives of the regime in bending and spreading for the Islamofascists is very dark indeed.