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Texas NRA board member speaks out on corporal punishment
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Texas NRA board member speaks out on corporal punishment
The antis are loosing their collective minds over this one. 
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Makes sense. I've made the same declaration.
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Re: Texas NRA board member speaks out on corporal punishment
I have to say, as a person who was on the receiving end, I strongly disagree with allowing school officials implementing corporal punishment. In my personal experiance, school employees have grossly overstepped bounds with regard to decency, excessive use of force and unnecessary use of corporal punishment. This experiance is in 3 schools in 2 states over 10 years of attendance.
My abuse finally ended for me when I fought back after being paddled with zero warning, ambused from behind by an administrator. I got swatted, turned around and broke the nose of the adult who hit me. I was expelled, which didn't matter because there was only two weeks of school left, but my parents didn't have the resources to sue the school and the cops assumed I was lying.
Do not, I repeat, do not let anyone else dole out punishment to your children. You want the government out of your life? Raise your own damn kids. YOU spank them when needed. Don't bruse them and break bones, but a swat on the a$$ won't kill em's. Don't expose them to the risk of abuse.
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My abuse finally ended for me when I fought back after being paddled with zero warning, ambused from behind by an administrator. I got swatted, turned around and broke the nose of the adult who hit me. I was expelled, which didn't matter because there was only two weeks of school left, but my parents didn't have the resources to sue the school and the cops assumed I was lying.
Do not, I repeat, do not let anyone else dole out punishment to your children. You want the government out of your life? Raise your own damn kids. YOU spank them when needed. Don't bruse them and break bones, but a swat on the a$$ won't kill em's. Don't expose them to the risk of abuse.
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I generally received a good wallop from my parents, on the occasion that I misbehaved, when I was growing up. I don't reckon that it hurt me.
I recall a time when my neighbor spanked my sister; he had told her to stay away from the honeysuckle on account of the bees. My sister didn't listen. The neighbor cared about us, and didn't want to see us hurt. I'm not sure that my sister even remembers; she was about 3 or 4, at the time.
I guess it's a cultural thing, and I suppose, too, that my opinion would vary depending on who saw fit to administer a spanking to my child.
There are some teachers, and principals, that I remember from my school years, that I wouldn't want coming within 10 yards of my kid. But, there were others that I remember being fair, compassionate,and just.
These days, most parents don't know who's teaching their kids, or what's being taught. I read about parents for protesting the curriculum, when they do find out what's in it.
Lately, I would be content with just abolishing the public school system , all together. Bring it back down to the local level, if it must be, at all.
Leave the federal and state governments out of it.
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I recall a time when my neighbor spanked my sister; he had told her to stay away from the honeysuckle on account of the bees. My sister didn't listen. The neighbor cared about us, and didn't want to see us hurt. I'm not sure that my sister even remembers; she was about 3 or 4, at the time.
I guess it's a cultural thing, and I suppose, too, that my opinion would vary depending on who saw fit to administer a spanking to my child.
There are some teachers, and principals, that I remember from my school years, that I wouldn't want coming within 10 yards of my kid. But, there were others that I remember being fair, compassionate,and just.
These days, most parents don't know who's teaching their kids, or what's being taught. I read about parents for protesting the curriculum, when they do find out what's in it.
Lately, I would be content with just abolishing the public school system , all together. Bring it back down to the local level, if it must be, at all.
Leave the federal and state governments out of it.
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While I am generally all for corporal punishment...
... I am not, in general, impressed with school administrator's track records. If they apply punishment with the same level of intelligence, insight, and competence they often exhibit in other areas.... forget it!
I've never quite understood how people, with a general distrust of the
State's authority, are willing to grant an arm of the State, this kind of power? Do they suppose that power will only be exercised over those children, but not theirs? And to what end?
... I am not, in general, impressed with school administrator's track records. If they apply punishment with the same level of intelligence, insight, and competence they often exhibit in other areas.... forget it!
I've never quite understood how people, with a general distrust of the
State's authority, are willing to grant an arm of the State, this kind of power? Do they suppose that power will only be exercised over those children, but not theirs? And to what end?
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Re: Texas NRA board member speaks out on corporal punishment
Ten public schools in twelve years of school. I never got whipped that I didn't deserve, but that was before schools were involved in social engineering. I've wondered if they would have taken that turn in their "mission" had they still been able to utilize corporal punishment...and had to withstand the scrutiny that that responsibility had brought with it.
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The public school situation today has deteriorated so far that the issues have become highly complex. You can't combine corporal punishment with a "zero tolerance" doctrine. You certainly can't combine it with teachers who molest the children in their care. You have to be able to trust that all situations will be handled with justice, compassion, and common sense. Those three qualities don't exist in the policitized bureaucracy that our system of government schools has become. And most of all, you can't depend on parents to hold their children to standards of behavior and learning these days - too many parents simply don't care, and too many others are too indoctrinated in wimpification to administer any kind of leadership within their own families.
It's similar to the police situation. Sure, cops should be armed and have the ability to protect themselves and the community from dangerous criminals. But we can't have them treating everyone they encounter like a dangerous criminal.
I could write much more on the topic but don't want to go off on a Dennis Miller rant today.
It's similar to the police situation. Sure, cops should be armed and have the ability to protect themselves and the community from dangerous criminals. But we can't have them treating everyone they encounter like a dangerous criminal.
I could write much more on the topic but don't want to go off on a Dennis Miller rant today.
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