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UN Treaty discussed in Congress

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If you look in the background it looks as if they are talking to the walls as there is no one there to listen to them. I know they are doing it to get on the record and I applaud them for that, but dang it seems like no one really cares about the degrading of our rights and liberties that many a soldier has shed blood and paid to ultimate price for.

Bad, Very Bad, Vern; you shouldn’t think like that you must conform to the party line.
By the way this treaty is for the Children’s sake, so just accept it for all the Little Children around the world and be Happy Comrades
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There are a lot of reasons for this treaty to have been rejected by the USA. But just by signing the treaty, Obama and Kerry do not put it into effect. Two thirds of the Senate must ratify it. Then it has the force of law. But even a law cannot alter the Constitution; so a treaty having the force of law also cannot. That would require a full-blown amendment process. It is perhaps more likely than not that the Senate will not ratify the treaty. The real danger is that the Obamunists will use this treaty as an excuse to abridge gun rights, surrender US sovereignty in the area of gun rights, and collect a gun-owners’ database, etc. by executive action. Then again, if you tell all this to the jack-booted thugs like the crew they sent to Boston, I doubt they'd care how right you were.
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Realization sets in when you look at it like that, and Damn Reality is a Bitch :enlighten:

So, we must remember in all this that it is always "For The Children".
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The scary part of this is that if, as one of the Congressmen said, the Obamunists treat the treaty as binding on the USA and impose its terms by executive fiat, even though it will be unconstitutional and therefore illegal, it must be challenged in court before the SCOTUS. That will take time; during which the Obamunists will do irreparable harm to US sovereignty and the gun rights of we citizens. And if he appoints another SCOTUS justice before that happens, I truly fear for the country. Perhaps that is what he’s setting the stage for.
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