Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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HIT this poll HARD!
Amend the 2nd Amendment? Who should bear arms?
PROPOSED AMENDMENT: “Because a well-regulated National Guard and Reserve, and well-regulated Federal, state, and local public safety departments, are necessary to the security of our free states and our free nation, the rights of citizens, while serving in their capacity in the aforesaid organizations, to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.”
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As of this post, it is 863 reject vs 75 approve.

I wonder if the results will be cooked.

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If one wants to change the wording of the 2A to THAT, may as well skip it altogether.

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"Vote above and here". Two polls with the same wording (Philly.com and Constitution Daily). 91% and 93% for rejection, respectively.

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SHMIV; Exactly!

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Re: Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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Holy crap...

Let translate for the laymen...

Do you want yourself and every coming generation to be a prisoner of the United States Government and serve as a slave to the elite few hundred people for your entire life or continue to enjoy your freedom and have the government be your servant?

Seriously? Who thought that up?
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Having had time to sleep on this, I come to the conclusion that these polls were set up to prove a point.
That being that the collective interpretation of the second amendment that the gun grabbers would like people believe, when laid down in black in white is absurd on the face of it.

These polls aren't even getting the typical 2 to 1 split.

OBTW the second one is at http://blog.constitutioncenter.org/2013 ... bear-arms/
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Re: Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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Dumbest thing ever.

It's the government who wants to restrict arms and they aren't interested in restricting their own. How often have FBI agents had legal problems carrying while on duty? Exactly.
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How about a poll to test the support for declaring the Union dissolved on the grounds that the social contract has been broken if the Second Amendment is altered in any way to infringe the right to keep and bear arms? Wonder how the support for THAT would shake out.
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Re: Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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First Poll:
Do you approve or reject the Right To Bear Arms amendment as proposed here? Approve 370 (5.8%) Reject 6020 (94.2%) Total votes = 6390
Second poll:

Thank you for voting!
Reject 95.93% (7,056 votes)

Approve 4.07% (299 votes)


Total Votes: 7,355
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Re: Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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Hell, the founding fathers really should have cleaned up the 2a quite frankly. It should have simply said

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

None of that other stuff about the militia that people argue about.

... actually, they should have just stopped at "Congress shall make no law" lol.

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Re: Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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hahahaha nice!
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The real purpose of the poll is to collect the IP addresses of those who support 2A for addition to the NSA/ATF database and additional data mining analysis.
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FiremanBob wrote:The real purpose of the poll is to collect the IP addresses of those who support 2A for addition to the NSA/ATF database and additional data mining analysis.
Good thing there are offshore anonymous proxy servers.
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Re: Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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I did it from a DHS computer and USPHS/FDA computer! LOL

I'm heading to Quantico now, then Belvoir next.

I'll see if I can get computer access in the state Senate building tomorrow. Anyone on Bank St. that can get me in?
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Re: Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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LOL! :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical:
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Re: Poll about changing the 2nd amendment

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vaeevictiss wrote:Hell, the founding fathers really should have cleaned up the 2a quite frankly. It should have simply said

"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed"

None of that other stuff about the militia that people argue about.

... actually, they should have just stopped at "Congress shall make no law" lol.

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The reason for the independent clause is to explain what arms shall not be infringed. They wanted to make it perfectly clear that military arms was the whole point of the 2A because that's always what government try and restrict first as it's a threat to the expansion of power. I think the reality is that regardless of how it was phrased we'd have problems today. The Interstate Commerce Clause was originally intended to prevent regulation of trade between the states because under the Articles they were waging trade wars. However, that simple concept has been perverted to mean that the Feds can regulate anything that affects or could affect inter-state commerce to include in-action! (Thank you Roberts for destroying what little was left of the Constitution).

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