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Is this a test case?

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If so, it is very disappointing in three ways:

1. That our national government would so corruptly abuse power to violate the Constitution.

2. That state and local law enforcement agencies sided with the feds against an innocent citizen.

3. That no neighbors or other citizens intervened to stop this incident.

This story seems to undermine the optimistic talk in other threads and forums about how LEOs and others would honor their oaths.

Sources: http://www.krqe.com/dpp/news/crime/feds ... ns-in-raid

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/02/dhs-r ... w.facebook

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On Wednesday, the Department of Homeland Security, along with a SWAT team and Bernalillo County sheriff’s deputies raided the home of Robert Adams in Albuquerque, New Mexico and, according to a federal search warrant affidavit the raid seized nearly 1,500 firearms from the man’s home and business. However, no charges have been filed against him, despite the fact that court documents reveal that agents had been watching Adams for years.

By Wednesday afternoon dozens of rifles were hauled out of the house, bagged as evidence and laid out on the lawn.

According to search warrants that were filed on Thursday Homeland Security Investigations confiscated nearly 900 firearms from Adams’ home, 548 handguns and 317 rifles. They also seized 599 pistols and revolvers from his office.

Neighbors say that he was a firearms collector and some indicated that he was also a licensed gun seller. No confirmation of that has been forthcoming.

While having been watched for years and no charges filed as they seized Adam’s firearms, Federal investigators are saying that they are investigating him for gun smuggling, tax evasion, violating importation laws.
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That is quite disturbing to say the least. I wonder what the allegations were that merited a Judge to sign off on a warrant, unless it was one of those "oops, we forgot to get one signed, our bad" deals.
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... no charges filed? :!:
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raided on Wednesday but search warrants filed on Thursday? :confused:
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raided on Wednesday but search warrants filed on Thursday? :confused:
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Not enough information here to do anything but scare the crap out of any other gun owner.
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Makes me wonder how many guns you can own before you run the risk of this kind of attention. Of course, maybe this guy was a licensed dealer who was bootlegging guns both ways accross the border and fudging records. But it doesn't SAY that anywhere. The only thing it says for sure is that the dude owned a lot of guns.
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File doesn't mean when the judge approved it, just means when it was filed (generally after they complete the search). You wouldn't want them to file the warrant before they used it, the bad guys would know it was coming.
Anyway, if you're picking up a gun in NM, I wouldn't recommend trying to use this FFL: http://fflgundealers.net/bob-adams%3B-s ... -guns.html

He's busy.
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