DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
Indeed... quite interesting.
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
I'm sure Cuomo, Feinstein, et al. would qualify it as "depends upon what the definition of self defense is" (a la the Clintonian definition of "is is").
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
Hmm...makes one think.
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
The wording is very interesting. If someone could post some links to te requests and they are worded that way, perhaps there's dissent in the ranks of DHS over the new agenda.

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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
The strange part is that the DHS is calling AR-15's with 30 round magazines "Self defense weapons". The whole argument from the left is that no one needs such a scary beast of a gun for self defense.
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
Thus my supposition. DHS didn't need to label them that way for a purchase... but someone in there did.

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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
If there is dissention in the ranks at DHS, and other guv'mint agencies... and some military sorts... do you think that perhaps the admin has realized, it's fighting a "two-front" war? Public opinion is one thing, private action is another.
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
Here's another article, but it's citing the same source of information as the Washintton Times article:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01 ... l-defense/
Got it!
Here's the RFP:
https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode ... e&_cview=0
-and here's the salient part-
https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=09c3d ... 57294a17b3
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01 ... l-defense/
Got it!
Here's the RFP:
https://www.fbo.gov/?s=opportunity&mode ... e&_cview=0
-and here's the salient part-
https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=09c3d ... 57294a17b3

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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
Some folks might not realize this, but the Federal workforce takes the oath, too. At least, 20+ years ago, they did.
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
Why do they need 7,000 firearms?
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
To go with the ammunition they bought, of course! Guns would be pointless without ammunition, silly!DW44VH wrote:Why do they need 7,000 firearms?
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
Also it says "select-fire firearm suitable for personal defense." Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't that mean that they can be fully Automatic?
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Yep. Rock and roll is a requirement.
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...oops.. or three round burst
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
I know I need select fire in a "PDW" (to use the slang)! Just wish I could afford the rounds on a select fire weapon...
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
Does this mean that the manufacturer gets a pass so their bank will loan them the money to start up production? Maybe the same company can crank out another 7k for the civilian market too.
As long as they can gear up production for the semi-auto civilian market, then I'd be cool with it.
As long as they can gear up production for the semi-auto civilian market, then I'd be cool with it.
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
I move we adopt "PDW" as used by DHS as the correct moniker for AR and AK platforms!

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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
I second!SpanishInquisition wrote:I move we adopt "PDW" as used by DHS as the correct moniker for AR and AK platforms!
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Re: DHS orders 7,000 "Assault Weapons" for Self Defense
The motion is passed, unexpectedly, from the SpanishInquisition, who's chief weapon is surprise... surprise and fear...who's two weapons are fear and surprise... and ruthless efficiency.... who's _three_ weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency... nevermind.
And if Bruce Dickinson wants more cowbell, we should probably give him more cowbell!