VA-ALERT: Senator Vogel responds to VCDL on gun control plan

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VA-ALERT: Senator Vogel responds to VCDL on gun control plan

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Senator Vogel has been responding to VCDL members who questioned her resolve based on some statements she made in nvdaily.com.

Her response is that she will support our Second Amendment rights. However, part of her response is still troubling:

"...I have grave concerns about the consequences of that Connecticut murder and have to remain open minded about how we change the tone and address some of these issues."

While having an open mind is not necessarily a bad idea generally, it is important to note that too open of a mind will let a person's brains spill onto the floor.

Here is VCDL's response to ALL legislators who are considering ANY KIND of additional gun control:

1. The Connecticut massacre happened in CONNECTICUT and NOT Virginia! Connecticut has very severe gun-control laws and we have seen how well those laws work everywhere they are tried. Tightening our laws in any way will NOT make us less susceptible, but more susceptible to having a similar massacre here. What will help is to allow CHP holders, including teachers and administrators with CHPs, to carry on K-12 property.

2. Gun owners in Virginia do not want ANY more gun control. NONE. We will be watching votes very carefully - in subcommittees, committees, and on the Floor. Bad votes will be exposed to constituent gun owners and not be forgotten come election time (the House of Delegates is up for election in 2013).

Bad votes will include, but not be limited to, the following:

* Gun bans of any sort, whether based on cosmetics, or not
* Magazine bans, or any other accessory bans, of any sort
* Background checks on private sales
* Restrictions on purchase, transfer, carry, storage, or discharge of firearms
* Restrictions on gun shows, dealers, hunting clubs, or firing ranges

None of the above would have stopped the Connecticut massacre:

* Columbine and other massacres happened well into the Clinton Assault Weapon Ban.

* The Virginia commission that looked into the Virginia Tech massacre issued a report that said, in part, that magazine capacity would not have affected the massacre one way or the other.

* Background checks on private sales had nothing to do with what happened in Connecticut, and can be easily defeated using "straw purchases," as was the case of the recent murder of some ambushed firemen in New York. Background checks on private sales would effectively register guns, allowing for confiscation, which is being discussed by some legislators.

Lobby Day is Monday, January 21st. YOU NEED TO BE THERE!



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Re: VA-ALERT: Senator Vogel responds to VCDL on gun control plan

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OakRidgeStars,

I am copying and pasting the email I received back from Senator Vogel:

Don't worry!! I am not going to flip on our Second Amendment rights. Notwithstanding what the Daily wrote, I have no intention of undermining anyone's Second Amendment freedoms and do not intend to reverse a lifetime of hard work. I have plenty of guns in my own house that I would use to defend myself, my family and my property and I come from a long heritage of people who have fought to defend those rights. Still, my concern is real and I was expressing my discouragement at the horror of Connecticut and the tragedy that we have not done more on, among other things, the mental health front. Nor have we done a good enough job keeping guns out of the hands of deranged people. I will concede that the answer is not taking any guns out of the hands of law abiding people.

As someone who cares about gun rights, you may know that I have always worked closely with the VCDL had an A plus rating with the NRA and in the past, have been the sponsor of legislation that my colleagues considered quite extreme in the defense of unfettered gun rights. My philosophy won't change as I have always said that our forefathers are spinning in their graves over what my generation has proposed to curb individual liberties and personal freedoms. That said, I have grave concerns about the consequences of that Connecticut murder and have to remain open minded about how we change the tone and address some of these issues.

Take care and thank you for emailing. I hope you have a Happy Happy New Year!!!

Jill

Senator Jill H. Vogel
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Re: VA-ALERT: Senator Vogel responds to VCDL on gun control plan

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That doesn't read as a form letter. I truly hope she stands with us and tries to talk sense to others.

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Re: VA-ALERT: Senator Vogel responds to VCDL on gun control plan

Post by MNMGoneShooting »

I got the same reply, but felt a little warm inside reading it :) I truly hope she's sincere in her statements.
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