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Let's here some ideas. What do you think it is?.


You're on to something I think, over the last few years there's has been an increasing militarization of our "civilian" law enforcement/government.Jakeiscrazy wrote:SAM missiles!

Word.mamabearCali wrote:You know Kruetz, you and I disagree with each other a fair amount. But you have got a point here. There is a very serious issue here (the increasingly scary tactics of the police for what used to be routine arrests). Holy Cow something we agree on!
of course, the warrant had to do with alleged drug selling.TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) — Jose Guerena Ortiz was sleeping after an exhausting 12-hour night shift at a copper mine. His wife, Vanessa, had begun breakfast. Their 4-year-old son, Joel, asked to watch cartoons.
An ordinary morning was unfolding in the middle-class Tucson neighborhood — until an armored vehicle pulled into the family's driveway and men wearing heavy body armor and helmets climbed out, weapons ready.
They were a sheriff's department SWAT team who had come to execute a search warrant. But Vanessa Guerena insisted she had no idea, when she heard a "boom" and saw a dark-suited man pass by a window, that it was police outside her home. She shook her husband awake and told him someone was firing a gun outside.
A U.S. Marine veteran of the Iraq war, he was only trying to defend his family, she said, when he grabbed his own gun — an AR-15 assault rifle.
What happened next was captured on video after a member of the SWAT team activated a helmet-mounted camera.
The officers — four of whom carried .40-caliber handguns while another had an AR-15 — moved to the door, briefly sounding a siren, then shouting "Police!" in English and Spanish. With a thrust of a battering ram, they broke the door open. Eight seconds passed before they opened fire into the house.
And 10 seconds later, Guerena lay dying in a hallway 20-feet from the front door. The SWAT team fired 71 rounds, riddling his body 22 times, while his wife and child cowered in a closet.




Its more terrifying when you stop to remember the frequency these dudes get the wrong house.mamabearCali wrote:Yep read about that one. Terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.
They get to decide whether their own actions are appropriate....sounds like a police state to me.What is worse is that if I am not mistaken the police were found to have taken "appropriate actions." .
Might be on to something there. Who needs a SAM when you can simply hope an ICBM lands in the deepest pool of **** this side of Pakistan?DorminWS wrote:Now, back to the Grand Speculation: I figure it's most likely to be an auxilliary sewage treatment plant. Goodness knows that crew are all full of it; and I reckon they're overloading the facilities.