Understatement of arms in the US

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Understatement of arms in the US

Postby Remek » Sun, 20 Dec 2015 22:14:22

I was recently reading (today) an article stating the 33 most heavily armed states, and it put us (VA) at about 20 guns per thousand. Now I know we are more like 1-2 guns per person. I figured it was propaganda. Unfortunately my computer crashed. Anyone else seen that article? If you do, PM me please, or post the link here?

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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby MarcSpaz » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 01:49:31

I saw the article. I was shocked we were like #5 in the country. Il look in my history and see I can find it.

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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby AlanM » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 04:08:28

It's the 30 most heavily armed states.
http://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/most-he ... merica/28/
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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby jdonovan » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 06:30:24

DC is #2?


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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby WRW » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 08:50:09

Registered firearms?

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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby dorminWS » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 11:51:47

I thought about that, too. They must be capturing those figures from the federal paperwork on firearms transfers through FFLs. So that meansd the numbers would be understated by the number of ALL firearms acquired before such paperwork was required plus any private sales. Could be a very substantial fraction of the numbers they show for some areas, I'd guess.
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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby Ironbear » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 12:58:21

Most of those make sense. But... D.C.!? Maryland? Connneticut?!
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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby MarcSpaz » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 13:19:06

So, what this article told me is, even though the federal statutes and Tort has been forbidden the government from keeping a firearm owners database, they either are or are trying their best to do it anyway.

How can anyone know the "number of registered firearms per 100,000 people" unless you know who has the guns?


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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby AlanM » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 16:46:10

Bear in mind that many news reporters are totally unaware that firearms are not required to be registered in most of the states of the union and use the term "registered" when their data is REALLY coming from some sort of estimate.
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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby WRW » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:01:17

AlanM wrote:Bear in mind that many news reporters are totally unaware that firearms are not required to be registered in most of the states of the union and use the term "registered" when their data is REALLY coming from some sort of estimate.


A quick look at the number of firearm purchases for 2013 showed nearly double the number, in one year, of what that reporter stated were "registered". I'm somewhat baffled.

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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby kelu » Mon, 21 Dec 2015 17:49:02

I call BS on this article.
According to FBI, only in 11 months in 2015, there were 390K background checks in Virginia alone: https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/ ... _state.pdf
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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby Remek » Tue, 22 Dec 2015 12:40:11

Excellent points, and thanks for the link.

I kept scratching my head about this, now I know they have only a small portion of the info!

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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby kelu » Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:07:38

Something attracted my attention, so I put Virginia background checks in a chart.
Looks like a new gun is the favorite Christmas toy? Always sales increase in November and December.
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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby SHMIV » Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:01:36

Cam & Co. (NRA News) touched on this on the Patriot Channel, last night. Tonight, Cam intends to rip the whole thing apart, word for word.

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Re: Understatement of arms in the US

Postby Remek » Tue, 22 Dec 2015 17:55:41

Cool! Glad you're looking at it! Hope you come up with great stuff!

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