Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

I realize that legal advice is worth what you pay for it, but I have a question.
I currently live in Ohio and have a Ohio Concealed Handgun License.
I expect to move to the Charlottesville area sometime this summer.
Ohio law requires that I notify the County Sheriff that issued my license of my change of address within 45 days of the move.
Some Sheriffs are revoking CHLs of people that move out of Ohio (other than military on orders). This is because there is some ambiguity in the Ohio Revised Code on this subject and sheriffs are interpreting that section differently so my Ohio CHL may or may not be revoked 45 days after I move.

Now to my question(s).
What is my best course of action?
Should I apply now for a non-resident VA CHP or wait until I get here and apply for a resident permit?
If I wWhat's the difference in cost?
ere to have my ducks all in a row how long does it take to get a resident permit typically?

Get a resident permit when you get here. You could go the non-resident route just to make sure you're covered while in the process of moving, but personally, I'd probably save that money and just open carry for a couple of weeks Either type of Virginia permit is going to be $50.00.

It could take up to 45 days to get your resident permit in Virginia. You will need to have Virginia ID before filing for a resident permit, so the quicker you can get your Virginia driver's license and file for your CHP, the faster you'll have it in hand.

Chasbo00 wrote:Consider getting a PA non-resident permit now. Can still do by mail, cost is only $26 and you should receive the permit within two weeks. The PA permit will cover you for VA, is good for 5 years and will add GA to what a VA permit has for reciprocity. Act quickly as a new permitting system in PA will soon not allow applications by mail.

Recommend you still get a VA resident permit once you are a VA resident.

Here's how to get the PA non-resident permit:

http://www.co.centre.pa.us/sheriff/lice ... cation.asp

That's a good idea.

allingeneral wrote:Get a resident permit when you get here. You could go the non-resident route just to make sure you're covered while in the process of moving, but personally, I'd probably save that money and just open carry for a couple of weeks Either type of Virginia permit is going to be $50.00.

Non-Resident VA permit is $100.

mrjam2jab wrote:

allingeneral wrote:Get a resident permit when you get here. You could go the non-resident route just to make sure you're covered while in the process of moving, but personally, I'd probably save that money and just open carry for a couple of weeks Either type of Virginia permit is going to be $50.00.

Non-Resident VA permit is $100.

Ouch! Thanks for the correction.

The Utah permit is also another option.

ProShooter wrote:The Utah permit is also another option.

AZ is a cheaper option....his OH permit will suffice for training.

mrjam2jab wrote:

ProShooter wrote:The Utah permit is also another option.

AZ is a cheaper option....his OH permit will suffice for training.

You sure do love that Az permit!

ProShooter wrote:

mrjam2jab wrote:

ProShooter wrote:The Utah permit is also another option.

AZ is a cheaper option....his OH permit will suffice for training.

You sure do love that Az permit!

Times are tough...just trying to save some money.

mrjam2jab wrote:

ProShooter wrote:

mrjam2jab wrote:"ProShooter" said, "The Utah permit is also another option."

AZ is a cheaper option....his OH permit will suffice for training.

You sure do love that Az permit!

Times are tough...just trying to save some money.

I can see right now that I'm going to fit right in here.

Another question:
Any idea how long it takes to get a resident CHP in Albemarle county (Charlottesville)? What usually causes a long wait?
I've had an Ohio CHL since August 2004 and have never tangled with the law (except for a couple speeding tickets) ever.
I can document every civilian address I've had from the year I turned 13 until now.

AlanM wrote:Another question:
Any idea how long it takes to get a resident CHP in Albemarle county (Charlottesville)? .

Theoretically, less than 46 days.

Well, I took your advice.
I just mailed off my PA license application.

Chasbo00 wrote:As the result of requirements of Act 66, 2005, applicants must have their photo and signature captured electronically into our system. At this time there is no manner to complete these requirements without the personal appearance of the applicant.

Therefore we will not be able to process any mailed applications received after March 31, 2011."

I wonder if I were to insert my picture and a scanned image of my signature into a document, and email it to them, if they would consider that acceptable without me having to be there in person?

Chasbo00 wrote:
I don't think so, but I'm pretty sure they would like to as the Centre County Sheriff's office will probably lose at least $100k/yr in revenue by not being able to process non-resident applications by mail. That's likely to cost at least one person their job.

Good guess. Here is an article published early last year. The original link has expired so I linked it from PAFOA.

It's been about 4 weeks since the move and it suddenly occurred to me to update this thread with my current status.
The move took place the last weekend of May.

I sold my POS '99 Windstar the previous weekend because I knew it couldn't pass a VA inspection and it would just be a waste of gas to drive it down here.

I had called Wachovia Bank earlier so I would have a local bank account already set up when I arrived. That didn't work since the one D eye oh tee that set up the accounts mis-spelled my first name on all the paperwork and I had to visit a C'ville branch in person to get everything changed and then wait for weeks for new cards and checks (the checks have yet to arrive), Also it turns out that Wachovia hasn't completely entered the 21st century so I can't set up a monthly EFT to my daughter's bank account like I can from my PNC account in Ohio. I have to wait until Wells Fargo completes digesting Wachovia before that will be possible.

Since I've not yet acquired a replacement vehicle, I'm pretty much at the mercy of my daughter and the other young lady living here for transportation. Anybody know where I can get a used minivan for a reasonable price? I can't get into anything higher and can't get out of anything lower.

It took three trips to the VA DMV to get all my ducks in a row to get my driver's license and register to vote.
That was finally accomplished on 6/13 and that same day I delivered my CHP application to the Albemarle Circuit Court Clerk with two Jacksons and a Hamilton.
Earlier I mentioned that I called this clerk's office from Ohio and was told it takes 60 days to process an app. The young lady that served me on 6/13 said the same thing. In one of my VERY RARE instances of tact I didn't take her to task on the 45 day state limit.
We'll just see.

Once I find transportation I hope to apply to and join the Rivanna Rifle & Pistol Club so I'll have a place to shoot.

Oh, did I mention that my daughter has an AR15, a 30/30 for deer hunting, a shotgun for home protection and a .38 sp wheel gun for snakes when in the field? She also now owns my father's S&W 6" model 48 .22lr/.22mag K frame.
The other young woman in the house is an LEO that carrys a Glock 21 pretty much 24/7.
My EDC is a 25 YO hand built 5" 1911 style pistol built on a Caspian Arms SS frame. I have other guns but don't usually publicly advertise my possessions.

In VA, the Clerk of the Court issues the permit, not the judge.
When I went to apply for my CHP, the ladies refused to take my wallet instructor card to prove my safety training. I had to return home to submit my 8x10 hunter safety certificate. Her quote "just because you have a fishing license doesn't mean you know how to fish." She never did "get it."
She was just a clerk, processing the paperwork. She had no idea what it meant that I am an instructor.
So, keep in mind those that you are dealing with. As I recall 60 days is the old limit, before VA became a "shall issue" state, but don't quote me on that - look it up.

One last piece of advice for small town living - although C'ville & Albamarle County are not as small as some other places,

You never know who you are talking to. The person that took your application could be the daughter-in-law or niece of who knows ?