Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

Chasbo00 wrote:It's puzzling to me why Virginia honors permits from Minnesota and Washington, but neither Minnesota or Washington honors Virginia permits.

AlanM wrote:

Chasbo00 wrote:It's puzzling to me why Virginia honors permits from Minnesota and Washington, but neither Minnesota or Washington honors Virginia permits.

There are two terms being use and they are not exactly the same.
1. honor or honors: One state may, if their legal/political people decide to, honor another state's concealed handgun/weapon license/permit if they decide that that states licensing requirements meet or exceeds their own.
2, Reciprocity - Two states actually draw up an agreement to accept each other's licenses. This usually takes place between two states that basically have the same licensing requirements.

Some states will not honor a license if no or little training is required.
Some states won't honor a license if no FBI background investigation is done.

For example there are several states that honor Ohio's CHL but don't have enough of a training requirement to be honored by Ohio.
Some states won't honor Ohio because Ohio doesn't require an FBI check except for new residents of the state. (IIRC <5 years).
Ohio ONLY has laws on the books for reciprocity so Ohio won't honor a license of a state that won't honor theirs.

The other side of the coin is that there are states that honor all other state's licenses or have constitutional carry.

VA Code 18.2-308. Personal protection; carrying concealed weapons; when lawful to carry. wrote:P. A valid concealed handgun or concealed weapon permit or license issued by another state shall authorize the holder of such permit or license who is at least 21 years of age to carry a concealed handgun in the Commonwealth, provided
(i) the issuing authority provides the means for instantaneous verification of the validity of all such permits or licenses issued within that state, accessible 24 hours a day, and
(ii) except for the age of the permit or license holder and the type of weapon authorized to be carried, the requirements and qualifications of that state's law are adequate to prevent possession of a permit or license by persons who would be denied a permit in the Commonwealth under this section.
The Superintendent of State Police shall
(a) in consultation with the Office of the Attorney General determine whether states meet the requirements and qualifications of this section,
(b) maintain a registry of such states on the Virginia Criminal Information Network (VCIN), and
(c) make the registry available to law-enforcement officers for investigative purposes.
The Superintendent of the State Police, in consultation with the Attorney General, may also enter into agreements for reciprocal recognition with any state qualifying for recognition under this subsection.

Chasbo00 wrote:

AlanM wrote:As you can see Virginia has it written into it's law the mechanism to recognize another state's license without a reciprocal agreement but provisions are in place to enter into such agreements if possible/desired.
It is quite possible the some part of Virginia's licensing procedures don't meet MN or WA requirements.

My question is: Why does VA grant recognition to only MN and WA without having either mutual recognition or reciprocity with these two states? There of lots of other states that don't honor a VA permit and have their own permit requirements that would meet or exceed VA permit requirements; yet, VA does not honor these states' permits. Why only MN and WA?

AlanM wrote:If you're right about WY (cite please) then this page
http://apps.carryconcealed.net/legal/vi ... e-laws.php
is in error.
If that is the case, I apologize.

AlanM wrote:B
Is this typical for Albemarle county?

AlanM wrote: I mentioned a temporary permit and the lady told me I could use my receipt for the application until my permit showed up.