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Va House Sub-Committee to meet tomorrow

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Va House Sub-Committee to meet tomorrow

Postby Quigley » Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:17:39

New “Special” Firearm Sub-Committee to Meet Tomorrow!
Please Stand Up and Make Your Voices Heard!

On Thursday, March 4, the new “special” Senate Sub-Committee created to handle all firearm related bills passed by the House of Delegates, will meet at 2 p.m. in Senate Room A.

State Senator Toddy Puller (D-36) will Chair this new special Sub-Committee and be joined by her fellow rabid anti-gun colleagues; State Senator Marsh (D-16), State Senator Louise Lucas (D-18), and State Senator Janet Howell (D-32). The sole Republican member of the Sub-Committee will be State Senator Frederick Quayle (R-13). Please contact the members of this sub-committee and urge them to request a fair hearing on firearm bills. Contact information can be found by clicking on their name.

Also, please contact Senate leadership and your State Senator and tell them you oppose the formation of this blatantly anti-gun sub-committee. Urge them to disband this sub-committee and allow these bills to receive fair consideration. You can find contact information for your State Senator by clicking here. Contact information for Senate Leadership can be found below.

Senator Richard Saslaw (D-35), Senate Majority Leader
(804) 698-7535
District35@senate.virginia.gov

Senator Henry Marsh, III (D-16), Courts of Justice Committee Chair
(804) 698-7516
District16@senate.virginia.gov
Listed below are the bills, which the special Senate Sub-Committee is expected to hear:

House Bill 26, authored by Delegate Thomas Wright (R-61), would prohibit the Clerk of the Court from requiring an applicant for a concealed handgun permit to provide any documentation or information not authorized by the law or prescribed by Virginia State Police.

House Bill 52, sponsored by Delegate Mark Cole (R-88), would allow a court to waive a $25 dollar fine upon presentation of the permit to the court, if a person fails to display his concealed carry permit when requested by a law-enforcement officer.

House Bill 79, sponsored by Delegate R. Lee Ware (R-65), would prohibit the Clerk of Court from publicly disclosing concealed handgun permit application information unless the permittee has provided written consent for the release of the application or information. The information would still be available to law-enforcement acting in the performance of their duties.

House Bill 108, also introduced by Delegate Cole (R-88), would prohibit agents of localities or localities themselves from participating in “gun buy-backs” unless the governing body of such a locality authorizes such a program. The locality would then have the option of selling the firearms by auction to a federally licensed dealer (FFL) or disposing of the firearm in any other appropriate manner.

House Bill 109, also sponsored by Delegate Mark Cole (R-88), would repeal the statute which allows the governing body of any county to require the sellers of pistols and revolvers to furnish the Clerk of the Circuit Court with the name and address of the purchaser, date of purchase and the number, make, and caliber of the gun.

House Bill 171, authored by Delegate Brenda Pogge (R-96), would prohibit property owners, employers, or a business entity from establishing or enforcing any policy prohibiting a person who may lawfully possess a firearm from storing a firearm in a locked motor vehicle in a publicly accessible parking lot.

House Bill 236, sponsored by Delegate Bill Janis (R-56), would remove the prohibition imposed by localities on hunting within a half-mile of subdivisions.

House Bill 870, sponsored by Delegate Benjamin Cline (R-24), would repeal the language that allows localities to fingerprint applicants for a concealed handgun permit.

House Bill 885, sponsored by Delegate Cliff Athey (R-18), would allow any person who may lawfully posses a firearm and is carrying a handgun while in a personal, private vehicle or vessel to keep the firearm secured in a container or compartment in the vehicle or vessel.

House Bill 1092, sponsored by Delegate Anne B. Crockett-Stark (R-6), would give retired law-enforcement the ability to carry a concealed handgun without a permit.

House Bill 1191, introduced by Delegate H. Morgan Griffith (R-8), would allow a circuit court judge to authorize the Clerk of Court to issue concealed handgun permits in instances where the application is complete, the background check does not indicate that the applicant is disqualified, and, after consulting with the local sheriff or police department, there are no other questions or issues surrounding the application.

House Bill 490, sponsored by Delegate Scott Lingamfelter (R-31), would direct the Department of State Police, in cooperation with the Secretary of Public Safety, to develop a plan to allow the State Police to issue lifetime concealed handgun permits to Virginia residents. The Department and the Secretary shall submit the plan, and any recommended legislative changes to implement the plan, to the Chairmen of the House Committee on Militia, Police, and Public Safety and the Senate Committee for Courts of Justice by October 15, 2010.

House Bill 1217, sponsored by Delegate Lynwood Lewis (D-100), would allow local school boards to offer firearm safety education programs in the elementary grades. To assist local school boards opting to provide such instruction, the Board of Education must establish a standardized program of firearm safety education for students in the elementary school grades to promote the protection and safety of children. The bill requires that the program objectives incorporate, among other principles of firearm safety, accident prevention and the rules of the National Rifle Association's Eddie Eagle Gunsafe Program. Local school boards offering the program must comply with Board curriculum guidelines and integrate the instruction in appropriate subject areas, if feasible, to ensure that every elementary school student receives instruction in firearm safety education.

House Bill 1070, sponsored by Delegate Clay Athey (R-18), would provide that a person who has a valid concealed handgun permit may not be barred from carrying a concealed handgun in any place or facility designated or used by the Governor, any political subdivision of the Commonwealth, or any other governmental entity as an emergency shelter or for the purpose of sheltering persons.


This is total crap. We need to get rid of this Sub-Committee yesterday. I can't believe that they are doing this. :fireleft:


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Re: Va House Sub-Committee to meet tomorrow

Postby zephyp » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:56:56

Quigley wrote:This is total crap. We need to get rid of this Sub-Committee yesterday. I can't believe that they are doing this. :fireleft:


Are you kidding? With the way these liberal goons are playing in VA and DC it wouldnt surprise me if they simply announced the mid-term elections were off and they will remain in office forever. And, it wouldnt surprise me either if a few million twits stood up and cheered them on.
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Re: Va House Sub-Committee to meet tomorrow

Postby GS78 » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:14:22

zephyp wrote:
Quigley wrote:This is total crap. We need to get rid of this Sub-Committee yesterday. I can't believe that they are doing this. :fireleft:


Are you kidding? With the way these liberal goons are playing in VA and DC it wouldnt surprise me if they simply announced the mid-term elections were off and they will remain in office forever. And, it wouldnt surprise me either if a few million twits stood up and cheered them on.

maybe so, but like I pointed out on a diferent thread, those twits standing up cheering for these politicians will have been bussed in, payed for with beer and smokes, and unarmed. So we still have the advantage. :whistle:
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Re: Va House Sub-Committee to meet tomorrow

Postby zephyp » Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:30:52

GS78 wrote:
zephyp wrote:
Quigley wrote:This is total crap. We need to get rid of this Sub-Committee yesterday. I can't believe that they are doing this. :fireleft:


Are you kidding? With the way these liberal goons are playing in VA and DC it wouldnt surprise me if they simply announced the mid-term elections were off and they will remain in office forever. And, it wouldnt surprise me either if a few million twits stood up and cheered them on.

maybe so, but like I pointed out on a diferent thread, those twits standing up cheering for these politicians will have been bussed in, payed for with beer and smokes, and unarmed. So we still have the advantage. :whistle:


at the VA level yes. National no. They still vote somewhere for that...
No more catchy slogans for me...I am simply fed up...4...four...4...2+2...

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Re: Va House Sub-Committee to meet tomorrow

Postby OakRidgeStars » Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:04:31

Senator Marsh's death star committee gets it's way this time around. Remember this, and the Senators who have such utter disregard for the will of it's constituents, on election day.

They have not heard the last of this from Virginia's gun owners.

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http://hamptonroads.com/2010/03/va-sena ... -gun-bills

Va. Senate subcommittee votes down gun bills

A hastily formed Senate subcommittee voted Thursday to defeat legislation that would repeal Virginia's one-handgun-a-month law, likely killing the proposal for the year.

The Democrat-dominated panel voted down several pro-gun bills that had been passed by the Republican-run House of Delegates, keeping the bills from getting a hearing in the full Senate Courts of Justice Committee. The committee's chairman, Sen. Henry Marsh, D-Richmond, said he won't put the bills on the full committee's docket when it holds its final scheduled meeting Monday.

Marsh appointed the five-member subcommittee Monday, stacking it with Democrats who favor gun control. Marsh said he formed the panel because the full committee already had devoted significant time to gun legislation this year.

Republicans and gun-rights advocates said Marsh's move was an end run around the full Courts of Justice Committee, where bills could have picked up support from pro-gun Democrats.

"I think in my alert I will call this 'The Ides of Marsh,' " said Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, musing about the headline he would put on his electronic newsletter to members.

While Marsh declared the rejected bills dead Thursday, one Republican senator did not rule out making an effort to revive them in the full committee.

"I don't think it's the end of the road for these bills," said Sen. Mark Obenshain, R-Harrisonburg.

Senate subcommittees typically don't kill legislation; they usually make recommendations to full committees. Senators have grumbled about established House of Delegates rules that enable House subcommittees to effectively kill bills, including measures passed by the Senate.

By the end of Thursday's meeting, the Senate subcommittee was voting down bills with as few as two members in the room. Absent senators left proxies to record their votes. Sen. Fred Quayle of Suffolk was the only Republican on the subcommittee.

The Marsh-appointed subcommittee voted 4-1 against a bill, HB49, that would repeal Virginia's law limiting handgun purchases to one a month. The 1993 law was a signature initiative of then-Gov. Douglas Wilder, who pushed it as a means of reducing illegal gun trafficking.

Opponents of the repeal said scrapping the law would, among other things, open the door for straw purchases of guns that would be resold to criminals and others who want to avoid electronic background checks.

Supporters of the repeal argue that the law has lost its effectiveness partly because lawmakers carved out an array of exceptions over the years, including one for gun owners with concealed-carry permits.

The subcommittee also rejected a bill, HB69, that would exempt from federal laws firearms and ammunition made and used in Virginia.

But gun-rights advocates have still scored victories in this session.

Both houses have passed legislation that would allow gun owners with permits to take concealed handguns into restaurants that serve alcohol.

They also have passed a bill that would let individuals without concealed-carry permits store firearms in locked vehicle compartments.
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Re: Va House Sub-Committee to meet tomorrow

Postby VBshooter » Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:42:27

Once again the arrogance of the Dimocratic Party rears it's ugly little head. To be so nonchalant as to leave a proxy while they go screw off and take a coffee break or whatever stinks on ice. It says right out that those bills didn't have a prayer.They were already defeated beforehand except for the paperwork.Next election cycle there will be several Senate seats that should be targeted for a real Senator that will actually do the job and review the bills and not sluff it off like the Houswives of Richmond did this session.
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Re: Va House Sub-Committee to meet tomorrow

Postby HK91762mm » Sat, 06 Mar 2010 22:15:08

HUMmmmm-- I hope My one vote will be enough to swing the elections when I get there, Im supprised that this comittee is allowd?
Now is there someway good Va gun owners can use this comitee on a moments notice to work for gun rights ?
This scuks But at least you have a chance in Va to turn out the liberals -- I just hope the dislike for obama can be harnessed to fight local dems in Local va politics -!

In NY we have no chance at all .!!


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A Democrat, Marsh was elected the first African-American mayor of Richmond in 1977.
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He was elected to the Senate of Virginia in 1991. He currently[update] represents the 16th district, consisting of the city of Petersburg, Dinwiddie County, and parts of the city of Richmond and Chesterfield and Prince George Counties.[1]


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