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Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby OakRidgeStars » Wed, 25 May 2016 17:51:18

VA-ALERT: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being revealed by the press!

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Your efforts to spread the word on Katie Couric s deliberate deception in her gun-control infomercial is paying off! NO, IT IS EXPLODING!

In fact, Stephen Gutowski, with the Washington Free Beacon, just put out a fantastic piece on it, INCLUDING a clip of the original video from the film AND the VCDL audio showing the deception clearly!

Here s a link to his article (spread this far and wide, too):

http://freebeacon.com/issues/audio-show ... activists/

or

http://tinyurl.com/h8djgk6


NewsBusters has also jumped in!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/kristin ... ite-claims

or

http://tinyurl.com/gocqdua


And HotAir.com:

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/05/25/w ... ok-stupid/

or

http://tinyurl.com/jnpr8sy


And the National Review:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/43 ... ocumentary


And the Daily Beast:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... ewees.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/hz9qtq6


And Townhall.com:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli ... c-n2168851


And Bearing Arms:

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/05/24 ... -gun-film/

or

http://tinyurl.com/hm9drpz


And another by Bearing Arms (hard hitting):

http://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/05/25 ... cs-career/

or

http://tinyurl.com/h9pl8yz




I m also getting word that other news outlets are actively pursuing the story, including NPR, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, and more Stay tuned!



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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby dusterdude » Wed, 25 May 2016 19:07:49

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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby SHMIV » Wed, 25 May 2016 21:43:09

Spiffy. I hope she is forced to resign in disgrace.

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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby AlanM » Thu, 26 May 2016 04:31:55

The list of sites is getting longer and longer.
Just Google "Katie Couric VCDL"
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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby AlanM » Thu, 26 May 2016 05:02:07

A comment was made on the AmmoLand site about this:

Ron Hatfield says:
May 25, 2016 at 1:28 PM
The set up was at 1 hour 36 min. She asked for silence for a sound check.. Everyone who knows anything about doing a sound recording knows is that you do the sound check at the beginning, not the end of an interview…She did not get the “right” answers to her questions so she basically screwed everyone in the interview and manipulated the tape..


My problem is that I can't find the full audio of the interview.
I know it was quite long (several hours?).
Has it been removed from the net for some reason.
The link provided in the VCDL email I, and many others, received no longer produces it.
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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby wittmeba » Thu, 26 May 2016 08:45:36

Might be broken - might try later.

From this item:

https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/ ... CEF10038B/


The question is here at 36min 43sec mark.




Phil Van Cleave's portion:



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A small part of the interview
http://freebeacon.com/issues/audio-show ... activists/
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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby grumpyMSG » Thu, 26 May 2016 11:11:27

Not to throw water on the "Dance of Joy" about Katie Couric, but I doubt she had anything to do with the editing. She is just the face of the talks. Hopefully it will bag some of the bigger behind the scenes fish involved in the process.
You just have to ask yourself, is he telling you the truth based on knowledge and experience or spreading internet myths?


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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby WRW » Thu, 26 May 2016 11:45:35

"Dance of Joy"? Try "Calls of Indignation".

And it was a collaboration between Perky and her producer.

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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby wittmeba » Fri, 27 May 2016 08:30:52

Update on Couric Debacle from Philip Van Cleave.

Update on Couric Debacle

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It’s been a long day. I did the following interviews (with little time in between):

Leland Conway (Kentucky - used to be on WRVA in Richmond)
Fox New with Howard Kurtz (Sunday, FOX News “Media Buzz” 11 AM and 5 PM on Sunday)
USA Radio (national)
Joyce Kaufman Show (Florida)
Scott Lee (the Score, Virginia News Network)
Channel 12 News (NBC Richmond)
Mark Walters (Armed American Radio - national)
Fox Business News (live - was on around 5:40 PM today)
Dana Loesch Show (National)

I am lined up for more tomorrow (as of 11 PM, Thursday):

Mike Gallagher Show (10 AM, national)
Lee Brothers Show (3 PM, Richmond radio)



Howard Kurtz will be playing an interview with me on FOX News on Sunday on his Media Buzz show - which is on at 11 AM and 5 PM.



Here is coverage from today on FOX’s Special Report with Brett Bair:

http://video.foxnews.com/v/491442738600 ... show-clips



The Couric story is amazing - she is being pounded by everyone - Washington Post, New York Times, Washington Times, CNN, FOX, and well over 50 or so more media outlets! NO ONE IS DEFENDING HER. I’ve never seen anything like this before (and hopefully won’t again).

I am behind on Alerts and Updates - no time right now. My apologies. I’ll try to catch up a little over the weekend.

Here’s a funny poke at Katie’s “creative” editing, putting the shoe on the other foot - A MUST WATCH:




A reminder of a similar fraud, this time it was by Dateline in 1993:





Here is more coverage of the Katie story (sorry, no time for short URLs):

Rush Limbaugh transcript from today:

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/ ... _look_dumb


Russia Times (and they know something about editing for propaganda purposes) ;-)

https://www.rt.com/usa/344516-gun-docum ... ive-edits/


Washington Post / Volokh Conspiracy:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/vol ... =nl_volokh


Huffington Post (wow - Couric really has no friends left!):

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kat ... cf7ad42f59


National Public Radio (NPR):

http://www.npr.org/2016/05/26/479655743 ... ocumentary


The Federalist:

http://thefederalist.com/2016/05/26/kat ... interview/


WHEW!!!


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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby AlanM » Tue, 31 May 2016 06:18:14

The outrage is spreading outside the pro-gun community.
Here's an example, on a conservative web site (naturally):

Gungate: Katie Couric and a question of ethics

When news anchor Katie Couric debuted her documentary Under the Gun earlier this month, she billed it as a balanced look at the gun control debate.

There was a “ huge silent majority ” of gun owners, she said, who supported moderate gun control measures, and that many National Rifle Association members did not agree with the group’s political positions.

Just two weeks later, Couric and director Stephanie Soechtig are under pressure over what many observers are calling deceptive editing of a key moment in their film. The leader of a gun rights group featured in the documentary says the film edited out gun owners’ responses to one of Couric’s questions – and instead has them sitting in silence, looking “stupid”.

In the press, criticism has been fierce. National Public Radio’s David Folkenflik said the “manipulation – and that’s what it was – would not pass muster at NPR under its principles for fairness”. At the Washington Post, Erik Wemple called Soechtig’s initial response to the criticism “ weaselly ” and wrote: “An apology, retraction, re-editing, whatever it is that film-makers do to make amends – all of it needs to happen here.”
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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby wittmeba » Tue, 31 May 2016 17:48:10

Well, apparently she has done it again -- tried to apologize and edited the VCDL comments:

Apology? NO! Katie selectively edits us AGAIN!

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On Monday, Katie Couric issued a public apology about her purposely deceptive editing of the answers VCDL members gave to a question about felons and guns.

IN HER APOLOGY, KATIE HAS *AGAIN* SELECTIVELY EDITED THE RESPONSE TO THAT QUESTION!

You simply cannot make this stuff up.

On the obscure web page where Katie buries her apology, there is a transcript of the response VCDL’s members gave to katie’s question. The problem is that the transcript stops only about one-quarter of the way into the response, clipping off the most relevant parts of the answer!

And the transcript stops at a convenient place for Katie, where Patricia Webb has just asked Katie rhetorically, "Tell me one law that has ever stopped a crime from happening.” That sounds like an odd response by itself, but Pat goes on to clarify exactly what she means and it doesn’t help Katie’s case. There are other responses damning to Katie’s position on gun control, too, but none of that made it into the transcript.

All Katie had to do was put the audio of the full 4-minute response on the apology page, but she knew that people would be less likely to read a transcript than to listen to some audio. And if they did read the transcript, the last thing they read, with Katie’s edit, sounds like the group isn’t firing on all its cylinders.

If you ignore the twisting of gun-owner's words by taking a comment out of context, KATIE STILL DOES NOT SAY SHE WILL FIX THE FILM! Instead somebody watching the film on cable will have no idea that there is an “apology" buried on the film’s website for the unethical liberties Katie took with the VCDL members' responses. Unless the actual responses are put back in the footage where she replaced them with silence, years from now, long after the so-called apology website is gone, this gun-control manifesto will be considered the correct version of events.

No, this is NOT an apology, but Katie simply twisting the knife. She just can’t help herself, I guess. She refuses to have her push for “universal background checks” shown for the worthless bureaucratic process that it is.

Here is the “apology”:

http://underthegunmovie.com/message-from-katie

Katie Couric

As Executive Producer of “Under the Gun,” a documentary film that explores the epidemic of gun violence, I take responsibility for a decision that misrepresented an exchange I had with members of the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL). My question to the VCDL regarding the ability of convicted felons and those on the terror watch list to legally obtain a gun, was followed by an extended pause, making the participants appear to be speechless.

When I screened an early version of the film with the director, Stephanie Soechtig, I questioned her and the editor about the pause and was told that a "beat" was added for, as she described it, “dramatic effect," to give the audience a moment to consider the question. When VCDL members recently pointed out that they had in fact immediately answered this question, I went back and reviewed it and agree that those eight seconds do not accurately represent their response.

VCDL members have a right for their answers to be shared and so we have posted a transcript of their responses here. I regret that those eight seconds were misleading and that I did not raise my initial concerns more vigorously.

I hope we can continue to have an important conversation about reducing gun deaths in America, a goal I believe we can all agree on.

Transcript with VCDL Response:

KATIE: If there are no background checks, how do you prevent ... I know how you all are going to answer this, but I'm asking anyway. If there are no background checks for gun purchasers, how do you prevent felons or terrorists from walking into, say a licensed gun dealer and purchasing a gun?

MALE: Well, one, if you're not in jail then you should still have your basic rights and you should go buy a gun.

KATIE: So, if you're a terrorist or a felon …

MALE: If you're a felon and you've done your time, you should have your rights.

MALE: The fact is we do have statutes, both at the federal and state level that prohibit classes of people from being in possession of firearms. If you're under 18 in Virginia you can't walk around with a gun. If you're an illegal immigrant, if you're a convicted felon, if you've been adjudicated in same, these things are already illegal. So, what we're really asking about is a question of prior restraint. How can we prevent future crime by identifying bad guys before they do anything bad? And, the simple answer is you can't.

And, particularly, under the legal system we have in the United States there are a lot of Supreme Court opinions that say, "No, prior restraint is something that the government does not have the authority to do." Until there is an overt act that allows us to say, "That's a bad guy," then you can't punish him.

FEMALE: I would take another outlook on this. First, I'll ask you what crime or what law has ever stopped a crime? Tell me one law that has ever stopped a crime from happening.




Here, again is the audio of the FULL response that Katie simply will not acknowledge:

https://soundcloud.com/washington-free- ... dl-members

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http://tinyurl.com/jgrbryu


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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby OakRidgeStars » Tue, 31 May 2016 17:56:55

She graduated with honors from the Dan Rather School of Journalism.


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Re: Katie Couric's deception to promote gun control is being rev

Postby Ironbear » Tue, 31 May 2016 21:21:45

OakRidgeStars wrote:She graduated with honors from the Dan Rather School of Journalism.

I was thinking more of the Stephen Glass School...
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