VA-ALERT: VCDL Update 10/13/15

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VA-ALERT: VCDL Update 10/13/15

Postby OakRidgeStars » Wed, 14 Oct 2015 10:41:32

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1. HELP NEEDED at gun shows (one is THIS weekend)!
2. Sheriff candidate for Henrico County wants much more gun control!
3. Antis take it on the chin - WDBJ shooting survivor says new gun laws are not the answer
4. [OR] Antis take it on the chin - hundreds protest Obama coming to Roseburg
5. [OR] Antis take it on the chin - Umpqua hero not interested in meeting with Obama
6. [OR] Antis take it on the chin - shooting victim’s father not wanting to meet with Obama
7. MUST WATCH: A new video by Bill Whittle hits the ball clean out of the park on guns “being the problem"
8. A bank to avoid: The Farmers Bank of Appomattox
9. LTE in Roanoke Times attacking VCDL for being too pro-gun
10. Washington Post article twists self-defense statistics
11. Major crime is dropping
12. [MO] Law professor sues over right to bear arms
13. Hilarious oldie, but goodie, on making your own “gun-free zone"
14. America has more to do to prevent gun violence
15. On-Air Murders Are Opportunity for Gun Control Demagoguery
16. Gun lives matter
17. [MI] Victim with concealed carry permit and two suspects shot during armed robbery [VIDEO]
18. [MO] Police: 11-year-old fatally shoots intruder 16 in Missouri
19. [WI] But we need more gun laws? Judge give strawman seller probation
20. [MI] Teenage robber shot by CHP holder in Detroit [VIDEO]
21. [WY] Guns in church stories
22. Duke Researcher: Owning a car 80 percent riskier than owning a gun
23. Kenneth Cole slammed by psychiatric association for gun reform billboard
24. Dan Rather: Journalists must seize on gun violence as they seized on Ebola
25. Police recruits abandon dream amid anti-cop climate [VIDEO]
26. Gun control groups accused of 'swatting’


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1. HELP NEEDED at gun shows (one is THIS weekend)!
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Obama and McAuliffe are working hard to restrict YOUR RIGHT to keep and bear arms.

VCDL is working even harder to protect YOUR GUN RIGHTS every single day.

By representing VCDL at a gun show you can support the organization dedicated to supporting you!


VIRGINIA BEACH - THIS WEEKEND!

Gary Moeller is asking for volunteers for the Oct 17-18 Gun Show in Virginia Beach at the Virginia Beach Convention Center. Volunteers are needed for all shifts:

Saturday: 9am-1pm and 1pm-5pm

And

Sunday: 10am-1pm and 1pm-4pm.

You MUST be a member of VCDL to work the table ( you can join when you show up), but one gets into the show for free. Prior to the show, Gary will provide informational guidance on booth operations.

Please, Gary needs all the help he can get.

It you don’t do anything else during the year to help protect your gun rights, do it here. It is much appreciated. If you have questions, please send email to Gary Moeller at gunshows.vb@vcdl.org or call at 757-373-2148.


RICHMOND

The next Richmond gun show will be at the RIR Raceway Complex November 14 and 15.

Over 800 tables of firearms, ammo, reloading gear, holsters, memorabilia, and much more.

We need volunteers to staff the VCDL table.

There are positions available for all shifts:

Sat. Nov. 14: 9am-1pm and 1pm-5pm.
Sun. Nov. 15: 10am-1:30pm and 1:30-5pm

And, if needed, we will do our best to be flexible to accommodate your availability.

Volunteers receive free admission to the show and are eligible to receive discounts from many of the exhibitors.

But most importantly is your opportunity to meet and greet great people, current members, sign-up new members, sell VCDL gear, hand out VCDL info and the famous “Guns Saves Lives” stickers.

You’ll have a great time and be on the front line of introducing VCDL to your Richmond area neighbors.

Please contact Mike Wilburt your Richmond gun show coordinator:
centralvagunshows@vcdl.org
gunshows.richmond@vcdl.org


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2. Sheriff candidate for Henrico County wants much more gun control!
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During a recent event featuring current Henrico Sheriff Mike Wade (R) and his opponent, James Layne (D), Mr. Layne said he supports gun control, including Universal Background Checks, mandatory training to get a handgun, and an assault weapon ban. In fact he said he is "for any and all gun control"! Layne also talked about “clips” and “street sweepers” showing that he is clueless about guns and Virginia gun laws (“street sweepers” are already banned in Virginia and have been since 1993!).

Layne’s statements are not a good sign for someone wanting to be a sheriff.

Sheriff Wade signs off regularly on Form 4s and has been cooperative with VCDL in the past. Hmmm - I wonder what Mr. Layne will do with those Form 4s?

Here’s the video (Wade is first speaker and Layne the second speaker):




ACTION ITEM FOR HENRICO RESIDENTS

Contact Sheriff Wade and thank him for his strong position on gun rights using his web mail:

http://www.sheriffmikewade.com/contact

Also contact Mr. Layne and urge him to stop supporting gun control and to also sign off on all Form 4s using his email address:

jameslayneforsheriff@aol.com


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3. Antis take it on the chin - WDBJ shooting survivor says new gun laws are not the answer
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Vicki Gardner, shot during the WDBJ massacre, who thankfully has survived and continues to heal, says we need to follow the Golden Rule, not have more gun control. She’s got it right, while Mr. Parker (father of the murdered reporter) does not.

Vicki’s husband also had told the press outside her hospital immediately after the shooting that more gun control was not needed.

http://conservativeintel.com/2015/10/07 ... vors-oped/

or

http://tinyurl.com/pnmvj6b


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4. [OR] Antis take it on the chin - hundreds protest Obama coming to Roseburg
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Obama wants gun control and Roseburg wants nothing to do with him.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ma-oregon/

or

http://tinyurl.com/o72ouf3


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5. [OR] Antis take it on the chin - Umpqua hero not interested in meeting with Obama
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Chris Mintz, a true hero, shot seven times, who put his life on the line for his fellow students, probably knew he could have stopped the massacre had he been able to be armed. I’ll bet Obama would have gotten an earful had he met with Chris! ;-)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10 ... ama-video/

or

http://tinyurl.com/ntd3epu


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6. [OR] Antis take it on the chin - shooting victim’s father not wanting to meet with Obama
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http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavli ... sletterad=

or

http://tinyurl.com/nlwjnjx


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7. MUST WATCH: A new video by Bill Whittle hits the ball clean out of the park on guns “being the problem"
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Bill Whittle, as usual, does a first-rate job demolishing the antis. Enjoy!

https://www.billwhittle.com/afterburner ... un-control


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8. A bank to avoid: The Farmers Bank of Appomattox
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Member William King sent me an email pointing out that Farmers Bank of Appomattox has a “no firearms allowed” policy.


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9. LTE in Roanoke Times attacking VCDL for being too pro-gun
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Looks like we lost a member for being unwilling to compromise our gun-rights away to placate the antis. He believes that we are an “obstructionist organization,” as if that were a bad thing. ;-)

If we have to lose members, this is the reason I’d choose to lose them over.

http://www.roanoke.com/opinion/letters/ ... 6f1c8.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/owoemab

Bachman: Virginia Citizens Defense League isn't a voice for responsible gun
ownership

Posted: Friday, September 25, 2015 12:15 am

Virginia Citizens Defense League dues notices were mailed recently. Do not
be deceived about VCDL and do not pay.

VCDL is "dedicated to advancing the fundamental human right of ALL
Virginians to keep and bear arms," including anyone capable of getting their
hands on a gun. See their website.

After correspondence with all VCDL directors, I discovered VCDL is
absolutely intolerant of any suggestions for new laws for the purchase or
possession of guns. VCDL leaders are not willing to compromise, discuss,
consider or accept any opposing views regarding gun control.

So VCDL is not protecting the rights of gun owners and is clearly just an
obstructionist organization.

I am a gun collector with a Federal Firearms License and very good high-tech
security system. I am also a VCDL member to the end of September, when my
membership, thankfully, will expire.

SNIP

I have suggested a national system of training, testing and licensing for
gun owners carrying guns in public based on existing ATF procedures that
would not infringe on anyone's right to have a gun except idiots.

There are ways to accomplish this objective without infringing on existing
rights to keep guns in homes. We only need to get smart on gun control, and
VCDL is obstructing rather than helping.

We need a license to drive a car, run a boat, fly an airplane, or cut hair,
why not to carry a gun in public?

Renewing VCDL membership is a mistake until the organization starts
cooperating with Virginia legislators on gun control and gets a new public
face.

ART BACHMAN


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10. Washington Post article twists self-defense statistics
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The Violence Policy Center tries to fool the public by cherry-picking their statistics (as usual).

This study claims that for every one lawful self-defense homicide with a handgun, there are 34 CRIMINAL gun-homicides, 78 suicides, and 2 accidents. The study's point is that self-defense with a gun doesn’t provide enough over all net gain since many more are killed using a gun than are saved.

NOT SO FAST! A key point not mentioned in the article is that the vast majority of defensive use of guns DO NOT END IN A DEATH! Most criminals stop their attack and flee as soon as they find out their intended victim is armed! That happens far more than the number of people killed using a firearm. Failing to bring that into the equation makes the study worthless, at best.

But let’s play along and think about that claim for a minute, minus the massive flaw. A self-defense shooting is a good guy lawfully saving his life from a bad guy. (I thought the mantra from the other side is that if it will save just one life it is worth it?)

The 34 criminal gun-homicides are mostly criminals killing criminals and also some criminals killing innocent victims. It is the latter category that can be reduced further by more good guys carrying guns.

It’s important to note that citizens lawfully carrying guns do so for their own defense and the defense of their families. They are not police and don’t carry to reduce crime or to stop bad guys from killing each other.

Suicides are for the most part, unstoppable - as one sees in Japan and Korea with their significantly higher suicide rates than the U.S. and virtually no guns used.

Accidents can be reduced by more education, say a requirement for all 7th graders to take a gun-safety class offered at school.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk ... 3278697542

or

http://tinyurl.com/qx5bt3v


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11. Major crime is dropping
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http://www.cnn.com/.../fbi-crime-statis ... dex.html...

or

http://tinyurl.com/olpohh9

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FBI reports lower murder, crime rates in 2014 - CNNPolitics.com
Wesley Bruer and Evan Perez, CNN

• FBI Director James Comey says the agency plans to collect more data on
civilian shootings by law enforcement
• "We have witnessed a remarkable drop in crime since the 1980's -- both
violent crime and crime overall," Comey said

Washington (CNN)The FBI says crime rates, including murder, were down last
year. The report is in contrast to headlines this year about a surge in
killings in some major cities.

SNIP


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12. [MO] Law professor sues over right to bear arms
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This professor is suing to be able to carry on campus! YES!

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/edu ... f1395.html

or

http://tinyurl.com/o6nzzsk


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13. Hilarious oldie, but goodie, on making your own “gun-free zone"
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Some good laughs looking at the stupidity of our opponents and their dangerous "gun-free zones":




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14. America has more to do to prevent gun violence
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"No one piece of legislation or policy change will solve the problem of gun violence. Many actions are needed." Gun control does NOT reduce crime, it raises it. Do you even read your own paper?:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/local/homicides/

Southern Maryland has extremely strong gun control laws and they have FOUR TIMES the number of murders as Northern Virginia. DC has the strongest gun control laws in the country and they have EIGHT TIMES the number of murders as Northern Virginia. Is that what you want for Virginia - a soaring crime rate to match DC?

Gun control in the U.S. was put in place to control slaves, freed slaves, and other minorities. is that why you like it? It's about control and that's all it's about, not reducing crime.



Member Timothy Wise emailed me this:


From washingtonpost.com: http://tinyurl.com/ownbhqc
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html


America has more to do to prevent gun violence
by Editorial Board
September 2, 2015

IN THE days since their 24-year-old daughter was gunned down last week in Virginia, Andy and Barbara Parker have emerged as powerful advocates for gun control. They gave numerous interviews and held a news conference; in an op-ed published by The Post just days after the shooting, Mr. Parker vowed to do “whatever it takes” to get sensible gun laws enacted. That the Parkers were moved to activism by the murder of their daughter is a tragedy — and it’s an evolution experienced by far too many Americans over too many years. That makes the lack of action by those in public office to bring some sense to the country’s gun laws even more intolerable.

“After Newtown, after Aurora, after Gabby Giffords was shot — you think, something is gonna get done,” Mr. Parker told CNN, referring to the 2012 slaughter of Sandy Hook Elementary schoolchildren, the shooting rampage at a Colorado movie theater in which 12 people died and 70 were injured and the 2011 shooting in which Ms. Giffords, then a congresswoman, was grievously wounded and six people were killed. The pattern after these incidents is depressingly familiar. There’s understandable horror at the lives lost and the circumstances (a movie theater, a historic African American church, an elementary school, a recruiting station, on live television) followed by an outpouring of sympathy. There are sensible calls for protections to combat gun violence, while those opposed to gun control disingenuously say that raising the issue exploits the tragedy. The gun lobby flexes its muscles and nothing happens until the next time, the next shooting. Meanwhile, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence reports, every day 297 Americans are shot in murders, assaults, suicides and accidents; 89 of them die.

The strength the Parkers showed at a time of unspeakable grief was remarkable, and we hope that they succeed in helping to bring about what Mr. Parker called “some good .?.?. from this evil.” It’s clear they are part of growing national sentiment to do something about gun violence, and Mr. Parker is right to focus public attention on the actions of individual elected officials who are responsible for weak gun laws. In the Post piece, he called out by name the Virginia lawmakers on the federal and state level who have not pursued or have actively opposed such common-sense measures as universal background checks and gun violence restraining orders. “Shame on them,” he wrote.

No one piece of legislation or policy change will solve the problem of gun violence. Many actions are needed. But voters need to make clear that there will be consequences for elected officials who cater to the interests of the National Rifle Association and thereby ensure that more parents will experience the kind of loss suffered by the Parkers.


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15. On-Air Murders Are Opportunity for Gun Control Demagoguery
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EM Greg Trojan emailed me this:

Good to see more and more commentary on the reaction of the blood dancers to every shooting that catches the media's attention.


http://patriotpost.us/commentary/37333


Virginia On-Air Murders Are Opportunity for Gun Control Demagoguery
by James Schott
September 1, 2015

Democrat presidential hopeful Hillary Clinton has again demonstrated the poor judgment for which she has recently become so well known with her efforts to be the first to jump on the gun control bandwagon following the on-air murders of two WDBJ-TV journalists and the wounding of a person being interviewed. After a brief expression of shock and sympathy, she then said, “We must act to stop gun violence, and we cannot wait any longer.”

What most of us see as a tragedy Mrs. Clinton used as a campaign opportunity, strictly adhering to former Obama White House Chief of Staff and current Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s advice, “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”

Her statement “We must act to stop gun violence” contains one wrong word: “gun.” Missing the point, like so many demagogues and people-control enthusiasts on the left, she would like nothing more than a nation where there are no firearms in the hands of citizens.

The truth is that an idiot or a maniac like the one at Smith Mountain Lake last week, or the vicious savages who commit violent acts, will kill or assault with or without a gun, and a determined person who wants a gun badly enough will find a way to get one.

The gay black former employee of WDBJ and other news departments had significant behavioral problems that caused him to lose his job in Roanoke and then blame everyone else for his problems. He filed unfounded charges against the TV station after being counseled for shortcomings on the job, losing that job and having to be escorted from the building.

He didn’t have a gun problem; he had a head problem. We now know he had problems with previous employers, residents of his apartment building and a local restaurant, displaying mental instability in each circumstance. That, Mrs. Clinton, is what you should care about, instead of knee-jerking to the wrong conclusion.

A new piece of information that is highly inconvenient for Mrs. Clinton and the gun control fanatics is that on August 26 Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives spokesman Thomas Faison confirmed that the Virginia gunman legally bought his gun weeks ago and that “he apparently passed a background check” to get the gun. What happened to the much vaunted background check process put in place to control gun sales?

Matching Mrs. Clinton’s failure to focus correctly on the real issue is President Barack Obama, who commented after the shooting: “What we know is that the number of people who die from gun-related incidents around this country dwarfs any deaths that happen through terrorism.” Perhaps he forgot about the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington, DC that killed nearly 3,000 innocent people, the jihadist Army doctor who killed 13 people at his clinic at Ft. Hood, TX, and the Murrah Federal Building bombing in Oklahoma City, OK, that killed 168 people.

Mr. Obama yet again demonstrated that how he reacts to a shooting situation depends upon who shot whom. In Ferguson, MO when a white police officer shot and killed a black criminal who attacked him, the president blamed the police officer, not the criminal. But in this instance, a black man shot and killed two innocent white people, and he blamed the gun, not the shooter.

Folks like Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama see additional and more restrictive laws that affect law-abiding citizens as the solution to shooting deaths, without any apparent recognition of other factors that are at least as important as guns and usually, as in this case, more important.

Given that the laws we have didn’t work, what additional law would have prevented this murderous act, and still comport with the unequivocal right to keep and bear arms guaranteed by the Second Amendment?

Surprisingly, The Washington Times reported Friday that the White House conceded that new gun regulations probably wouldn’t have prevented this shooting. “White House press secretary Josh Earnest said it appears that a proposal championed by President Obama to require background checks on purchases at gun shows ‘would not have applied in this particular case.’”

Perhaps those on the left might want to look at their efforts to create victims at every turn and to make victimhood an excuse for people to do pretty much anything they want. The Mountain Lake murderer apparently believed his fellow workers at two or more TV stations where he had worked disliked him because he was a black man, or because he was a homosexual. Apparently, he viewed even the counseling by management about his job performance as racist or homophobic, not legitimate job improvement counseling.

Society’s problems won’t be solved by using tragedies to advance political agendas, as Mrs. Clinton did with this horrible, inexplicable murder. We can only solve them by focusing on the actual problems. Guns are only a problem when people who have violent intent deliberately use them illegally to commit violence. We will not reduce those incidents by restricting the ability of law-abiding people to protect themselves and their families, or to use firearms for other legal purposes.


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16. Gun lives matter
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Another look into the psyche of gun grabbers, a world that is driven by emotion at all costs.


Member Billy Huckleberry emailed me this:


From americanthinker.com: http://tinyurl.com/objw39f
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles ... tter_.html


Gun lives matter
By David Gayvert
September 2, 2015

The predictable calls to pass more stringent laws “to stop gun violence” have revved up again in the wake of the depraved murder of a Virginia reporter and cameraman. It’s easy to understand why progressive elites are once again exploiting human tragedy to advocate for more legal restrictions on gun ownership despite the manifest ineffectiveness of such measures in “stopping gun violence.” They are loath to miss any opportunity to extend the power of the State at the expense of the citizenry.

That project notwithstanding, there does seem to be a genuine and visceral dislike -- or perhaps distrust is a better characterization -- of guns qua guns among rank and file progressives; something apart from the evil acts that some people commit with these tools. Guns seem to occupy a place in their psyches that knives, clubs, garrotes, explosives, machetes and other implements that regularly are employed to murderous effect do not. They just know that somehow, guns are bad -- at least when in the hands of those who are not current law enforcement or military professionals (or of course their private security details), for whom liberals make a reluctant exception. Scary-looking “assault weapons” excite particular fear and instinctive opprobrium.

Many leftists may doubt the existence of a transcendent human soul, but they are certain, if only at an unconscious level, that rather than mere inanimate tools, guns indeed have a life force of their own and thus can and do assert a mysterious, murderous influence over unsuspecting, otherwise good people. That the term “gun violence” has gained a currency that say, “punch and kick violence” has not is telling, despite that guns account for only 10% of violent attacks while 66% of assaults are unarmed. This is an underappreciated yet useful insight into the way progressives think (or feel, I should say), one that can and should be exploited to great effect.

When liberals like Diane Sawyer lament that America is “awash in guns,” they implicitly argue that guns -- not bad or crazy people -- are responsible for violence done in this way; that guns, rather than those who wield them, are the responsible moral agent in their illicit use. It follows then, in their minds, that if only society could get rid of guns in the public square, violence would proportionally decrease.

Given that modern liberalism is based upon emotional intuition and good intentions, such tortured logical and metaphysical constructions are plausible and not particularly surprising. It could also be that progressives’ worship of abortion generally reflexively leads them to extend it beyond merely the womb into their wider thinking, snuffing out reason as easily and guilt-free as an unwanted baby.

This is why they reflexively reject common-sense prescriptions such as training and arming teachers to protect their schools, or the NRA’s observation that “the best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.” In their worldview, introducing guns into any situation in which the goal is to reduce their illicit use is, why, just plain crazy! Never mind the fact that virtually all of the mass murders over the past several years have been committed in “Gun-free Zones.”

Moreover, because they are prisoners of an ideology that grants guns an inherent moral autonomy, liberals will continue to advocate for the enforcement and further establishment of such ill-considered measures which make already vulnerable populations such as school children and movie-goers less safe than they could be.

The relatively new focus on the role of mental illness in otherwise random murder certainly is a welcome addition to the debate. However thus far, Constitution and liberty-loving Americans have not given sufficient attention this demonstrable irrationality of gun control supporters. To summarize:

-They doggedly cling to policy prescriptions that manifestly don’t work (I will take God, guns and religion any day), yet they continue to argue for more of the same -- NB: definition of insanity: doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different result;

-Their preferred laws empower criminals and crazies to the peril of law-abiding people;

-They do this because….

-In their hearts they are animated by the implicit belief that guns have minds and souls.

Taking a page from Donald Trump’s playbook, this argument should be forcefully and merrily advanced by those who seek to lead the Republican Party and indeed the Republic, knowing full well the indignant, ad hominem fury it will provoke and be ready to meet such invective tit-for-tat. Gun-grabbers must be boldly criticized for ignoring the reality that criminals, by definition, pay no attention to laws and mentally ill people often lack the capacity or inclination to abide by laws and other social conventions. In other words, gun control laws exclusively impinge upon legal gun owners, making their lives more onerous, expensive, dependent and risk-filled, all while doing nothing to actually stop violence.

By explicitly exposing the magical thinking that generates liberals’ views on gun laws, conservatives and particularly Republicans who would be President should also make the case that the greater failure of the progressive vision increasingly manifest in all major cities and states run by Democrats is due to a general embrace of a results-free world view, contrasting the dismal outcomes of Democrat programs to the reality-based policies of Republican leaders across the country which have and are leading states like Texas, North Dakota and Louisiana to greater prosperity for their citizens.

Democrats have proved that ridicule can be a powerful weapon. It’s time Republicans learned to wield it -- with gusto.


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17. [MI] Victim with concealed carry permit and two suspects shot during armed robbery [VIDEO]
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While the victim got wounded in the exchange of fire, he tagged his assailants and the police got both of them.

EM Dave Hicks emailed me this:


From wxyz.com: http://tinyurl.com/pel4qpu
http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit ... troit-bank


Victim with concealed carry permit and two suspects shot during armed robbery
September 3, 2015

DETROIT (WXYZ) - Police continue to investigate a shooting that occurred Thursday on Detroit's west side at Warren and Asbury Park.

Police say a 50-year-old resident of the neighborhood was going to the ATM at a Citizens' Bank branch when he was approached by two young men that police describe as being around 18 years old.

Those young men were armed with a sawed off rifle and a handgun.

Police are still trying to determine exactly what happened, but officers say the robbery victim has a Concealed Carry Permit and defended himself.

All three men were injured and taken to the hospital with non-life threatening injuries.

The two suspects are in custody at Oakwood Hospital.


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18. [MO] Police: 11-year-old fatally shoots intruder 16 in Missouri
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Guns and kids don’t mix? Baloney.

This case brings to mind another case in California some years ago, where a teenager was unable to save her siblings from an attack because the guns in the house were locked up and she couldn’t get to them. She had been taught how to use them, too. Gun control helped a killer take two innocent lives that day.

Board Member Bruce Jackson emailed me this:


From msn.com: http://tinyurl.com/pwwo43p
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pol ... ?ocid=iehp


Police: 11-year-old fatally shoots intruder 16 in Missouri
by David Carson
September 4, 2015

ST. LOUIS (AP) — St. Louis County police say an 11-year-old boy fatally shot a 16-year-old intruder during a home invasion, but some neighbors take issue with that account.

Officers responded Thursday afternoon to a report of a shooting at a north St. Louis County home, Police Sgt. Brian Schellman told The Associated Press.

Police believe two suspects had tried to break into the modest ranch-style home two times earlier in the day. On the third try, they were able to enter through the front door, Schellman said. There were no signs of forced entry.

Soon after the 16-year-old entered, the 11-year-old fired a single shot that struck him in the head, Schellman said. The body of Lamonte Streeter, who lived just a couple of blocks away, was found in the front foyer.

Schellman said the shot may have scared away the second suspect, a 22-year-old suspect who remained jailed Friday after being arrested on suspicion of burglary. Prosecutors were reviewing the case to determine if charges should be filed.

Some neighbors told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that they witnessed the shooting and there was no break-in.

Donna Jackson told the newspaper that she saw the 11-year-old shoot the 16-year-old at point-blank range as they talked near front door.

"It was not a break-in," Jackson, 45, said. "He shot him in the head."

Jazmyne Clark, 18, who lives two doors down from the shooting, said the 11-year-old was on the front porch when he told the 16-year-old to approach him. When the 16-year-old reached the front door, the younger boy shot him, Clark said.

"He was never in the house," Clark told the newspaper. "He wasn't breaking in at all. He was just trying to sell him his phone."

Schellman said evidence indicated the shooting happened inside.

"Although we will not discuss specifics, physical evidence obtained at the scene indicates the deceased was shot while inside the residence," Schellman said in an email. He encouraged anyone with information to contact police.

Sharon Taylor, who lives next door to where the shooting happened and said she is a cousin of the 11-year-old's father, said the boy is not a troublemaker. She doubted the break-in story, however, calling it unlikely to happen in the middle of the day.

The 11-year-old and his 4-year-old sister were not hurt. Their mother wasn't home during the incident but is cooperating with an investigation, Schellman said.


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19. [WI] But we need more gun laws? Judge give strawman seller probation
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Just like the NICS system in 2010 only got 13 convictions NATIONWIDE!

Member Billy Huckleberry emailed me this:


From bearingarms.com: http://tinyurl.com/qz5xmkm
http://bearingarms.com/need-gun-laws-ju ... probation/


But we need more gun laws? Judge give strawman seller probation
by Bob Owens
September 3, 2015

Gun control supports keep pushing for more gun control laws to punish law-abiding citizens, not criminals. They could care less what happens to criminals.

We know this for a simple reason. Neither Moms Demand Action, nor Everytown, nor CSGV, nor Brady have anything at all to say about this mocking travesty of a decision.

In giving probation with no jail time to a Milwaukee man charged with 55 counts of buying firearms with fake identification and dealing them without a license, a federal judge delivered a message:

“People kill people,” U.S. District Rudolph Randa said, echoing a common gun rights slogan. “Guns don’t kill people.”

Dontray Mills, 24, purchased a total of 27 firearms, mostly handguns, between December 2012 and April 2014 and pleaded guilty to one of the charges on April 22, 2014, after an ATF investigation. As a result of the conviction, Mills will never again be able to buy firearms legally.

On Wednesday, he was sentenced. As part of the plea bargain, prosecutors agreed with the one year of probation.

Randa said he recognized the seriousness of the offense and acknowledged the problem of guns winding up in the hands of people who use them to commit violence.

But Mills, Randa said, did not come across as a typical defendant because of his good behavior since the charges and his life ambitions, which include becoming a rap musician. While on bail, Mills twice traveled to Los Angeles to work on a film and to pursue his musical aspirations.

Randa said he had seen plenty of people facing similar charges who bought firearms for friends and then took no responsibility for their actions. Mills, he said, has accepted responsibility.

There were 55 counts of strawman purchases intended to deliver guns to criminals on the street, each good for 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Instead of 550 years in prison and nearly $14 MILLION in fines, Judge Randa sentenced Mills to probation for putting dozens of guns into the hands of violent criminals.

This is absurd.


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20. [MI] Teenage robber shot by CHP holder in Detroit [VIDEO]
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Member Patrick Barry emailed me this:


From wxyz.com: http://tinyurl.com/pteu88v
http://www.wxyz.com/news/region/detroit ... to-hold-up


Teenage robber shot in Detroit by man with concealed carry license he tried to hold up
By Aaron Baskerville
September 2, 2015

DETROIT (WXYZ) - Police say a 17-year-old remains in the hospital in critical condition after the young father he tried robbing shot him several times.

It happened late Wednesday afternoon near the corner of Warren and Grayton on the city's east side.

Angela Lanier tells 7 Action News her 24-year-old son Joe fired his gun when the teenager tried robbing him while he was sitting in his car. She says he was on the job as an exterminator when the teenager pulled a gun on him for his sunglasses.

Joe Lanier says, "The boy tried to rob me, and I shot him. That's what happened."

He also went on to say, "That's why he's in the hospital and not me."

Lanier has a concealed carry license and his mother is an instructor herself, who says she's taught all of her sons how to responsibly operate a gun.

Her son fired his gun seven times. The windows of his car were blown out.

Police are still investigating.


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21. [WY] Guns in church stories
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Member Bob Culver emailed me this:

From jhnewsandguide.com: http://tinyurl.com/ojcbygu
http://www.jhnewsandguide.com/opinion/c ... 1fbbc.html

Bring your gun along to church, just in case
by Maury Jones
July 29, 2015

As they escorted the young man out of our worship service, I immediately thought, “What if he goes to his car and returns with a gun? We are sitting ducks!”

It was obvious the man was not “all there,” having some kind of mental illness. He could have been upset that he wasn’t allowed “to preach to the people” as he had expressed an intention of doing.

Revenge was a possibility. I looked at all available means of defense. Nothing more formidable than a hymn book or Bible was at hand.

God-given right

I sweated out the last 15 minutes of the service that had happened less than two years ago, in our small town of Jackson, Wyoming.

After services, those who knew him said this young man was normal through high school, but college and drugs had altered his grasp of reality.

Ever since that day I have worn a small concealed pistol in church. I don’t mind who knows it, because by so doing I am protecting myself, which is my God-given right, which “shall not be infringed.” I am also protecting the rest of the congregation. But what if I shoot at a mass murderer and my shot goes astray and hits an innocent bystander? Well, the alternative is to let him pick us off, one by one.

“But we have cellphones. We can call 911,” you say. When seconds count, 911 is only minutes away.

Far better to have a couple of good guys there with guns, on the spot, to stop the bad guy. That is simply cowboy common sense.

Allure of ‘Gun Free Zones’

Crime researcher John R. Lott has spent thousands of hours poring over profiles of mass shooters, including reading their journals and writings.

Mr. Lott said it is indisputable that mass shooters — including the killers at Columbine and Aurora in Colorado, at Sandy Hook in Newtown, Connecticut, at the historic church in South Carolina and most recently the killer at the Grand Theater in Louisiana — had deliberately researched and profiled Gun Free Zones for their crimes, and they painstakingly avoided locations that allowed guns on site.

Mr. Lott’s analysis of the data is that “Gun Free Zones draw mass shooters like a magnet.”

Remember that conclusion when you post a “No Firearms Allowed” sign on your church, school, hospital or business.

According to Mr. Lott, every mass shooting except one during the past 65 years has occurred in a Gun Free Zone.

Now we have five military and a couple more moviegoers dead, shot in a Gun Free Zone.

If it is known that some trustworthy and capable citizens may have a concealed defense weapon, in church or other public place, then potential murderers avoid that location, according to the killers’ own writings.

A friend of the Charleston church mass killer said the young man was going to target the College of Charleston, but was concerned that he couldn’t get past security. He targeted, instead, a helpless congregation of worshippers. It is a near certainty that if someone in the congregation had possessed a firearm, only two or three would have died rather than nine.

The Aurora theater shooter killed 12 people and wounded many others. He had a choice of seven movie theaters within a 20-minute drive of his home. The theater he chose wasn’t the closest, but it was the only one that posted signs saying it banned all guns, including concealed handguns carried by law-abiding individuals.

I can almost see the looks of horror on some of you readers right now as you are aghast that this cowboy would actually propose that some members of a church congregation be armed.

Defend ourselves

Folks, what part of the above indisputable facts do we not understand? If we make a church or public building a Gun Free Zone, it will be targeted by mass shooters, according to their own writings.

Why would they choose to perform their nefarious deed in a place that has a prominently posted sign, “Firearms not allowed”?

Cowboy common sense says it is because they are not afraid of getting arrested or tangling with our justice system. They are afraid of getting shot before they can complete their devilish act.

If a law, rule or regulation prohibits guns in a building and people think they are therefore safe from a mentally deranged killer, then by that logic all we have to do is to make a law, rule or regulation against killing people in our building.

How about posting one of these signs: “Thou Shalt Not Kill” or “No Shooting of our Church Members.”

Surely that law would be more readily obeyed than “No Guns Allowed.”

The Constitution says I have the God-given right to defend myself with a firearm.

In the recent Heller case, the U.S. Supreme Court upheld this as an “individual right.”

The Supreme Court also said, “Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no rule-making or legislation which would abrogate them,” according to the 1966 Miranda Decision.

We don’t need any court to tell us what we already know inside of us. We inherently know we have the inalienable right to defend our lives from the bad guys. That is simply cowboy common sense.


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22. Duke Researcher: Owning a car 80 percent riskier than owning a gun
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Member Walter Jackson emailed me this:


From breitbart.com: http://tinyurl.com/osyujay
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... ing-a-gun/


Duke Researcher: Owning a car 80 percent riskier than owning a gun
by AWR Hawkins
September 3, 2015

Like a sledge hammer falling on a glass table, Duke Researcher Chris Conover has dropped scholarly methods and results on the anti-gun rhetoric regarding gun ownership versus car ownership to show that owning a car is “80 percent” riskier than owning a gun, as it relates to the lives of others.

Conover is Research Scholar at the Center for Health Policy and Inequalities Research at Duke University.

Writing in Forbes, Conover pointed to myriad arguments put forth by gun control groups on the topic–all of them contending that the level of gun deaths vs the level of car deaths show gun ownership most dangerous. Breitbart news previously reported that such arguments have been put forth by The Economist, Everytown for Gun Safety, and Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America, among others.

But Conovor shows that those making these claims are basing them on the number of deaths–gun-related deaths vs car-related deaths–without taking into account how many tens of millions more guns there are than cars in this country.

Conover sets forth the raw numbers:

There were 310 million guns in the U.S. in 2009 (a Congressional Research Service figure have no reason to dispute), a figure that likely grew to perhaps 350 million by 2013. These guns result in 33,000 deaths in 2013, of which 64% were suicides, leaving 500 accidental deaths and 11,200 due to homicides.

There were 269 million registered vehicles in the U.S. in 2013. These result in 33,000 deaths a year, roughly half of which are drivers (these are official NHTSA statistics).

Then he explains how and why to distinguish between self-harm and harm to others, and draws an inference based on the facts:

In this sharply divided country, there surely is also strong disagreement about the extent to which government ought to be protecting citizens from self-harm. But I presume that a broad spectrum of the public on both sides of the aisle would agree there is an appropriate government role in protecting citizens from being harmed by one another. So if we leave aside self-inflicted deaths, the average car is 1.8 times as risky as the average gun. That is, my owning a car is 80 percent more likely to result in the death of another person my owning a gun.

To drive the point home, Conover shows that even when the focus is on accidental deaths car ownership and operation is far riskier than gun ownership and operation.

Working from figures included in Table 10 of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Death and Mortality figures for 2013, Conover shows that the number of accidental firearm-related deaths for that year was approximately “1.4 deaths per million guns.” That works out to “less than 2? accidental deaths a day.

On the other hand, even if you take out drunk drivers from the number of accidental car deaths for 2013–something which Conover does by citing the argument that drunk driving alone is a crime that could mitigate categorizing a resulting crash as an accident–even then, the number of accidental car deaths was approximately 12,700 for the year. That works out to “36.2 accidental deaths for every million vehicles.”

The conclusion? “The typical car is 25 times more as likely to kill someone accidentally as the typical gun.”

Conover writes:

So again, in light of these eye-opening but indisputable facts, why is gun ownership so vilified by progressives? They could save literally 25 times as many lives by convincing a single typical car owner to drive more responsibly than convincing a single typical gun owner to use their weapon more responsibly.


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23. Kenneth Cole slammed by psychiatric association for gun reform billboard
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EM Dave Vann emailed me this:


From cnn.com: http://tinyurl.com/ptckp4u
http://money.cnn.com/2015/09/03/news/ke ... ney_latest


Kenneth Cole slammed by psychiatric association for gun reform billboard
by Ahiza Garcia
September 3, 2015

A psychiatric group complained that Kenneth Cole's gun reform billboard is off target and it wants him to take it down.

The American Psychiatric Association slammed the fashion designer on Thursday for a billboard that read: "Over 40M Americans suffer from mental illness. Some can access care...All can access guns."

The message was signed "Kenneth Cole" and included the hashtags #gunreform and #areyouputtinguson.

The sign looms over Manhattan's busy West Side Highway and the APA wants it removed.

APA President Dr. Renee Binder said the billboard message is detrimental because it incorrectly links mental illness with gun violence and the need for gun control.

"It provides the gross misimpression that people with mental illness are violent," Binder said. "The vast majority of people with mental illness are not violent and most acts of violence are not committed by people with mental illness."

In response to the roadside sign, the APA tweeted a series of messages expressing their disappointment in Cole.

Tell @mr_kennethcole to #givestigmatheboot
— American Psychiatric (@APAPsychiatric) September 3, 2015

Disappointed with @mr_kennethcole for linking gun violence, mental illness. Follow us to get the facts. #givestigmatheboot
— American Psychiatric (@APAPsychiatric) September 3, 2015

People with mental illness are vastly more likely to be victims of violence than to perpetrate it. #givestigmatheboot @mr_kennethcole
— American Psychiatric (@APAPsychiatric) September 3, 2015

1 in 4 people with serious mental illness has been the victim of a violent crime in the past year #givestigmatheboot @mr_kennethcole
— American Psychiatric (@APAPsychiatric) September 3, 2015

.@mr_kennethcole Take down the billboard. But keep raising awareness about lack of care for #mentalhealth #givestigmatheboot
— American Psychiatric (@APAPsychiatric) September 3, 2015

Binder did note that Cole's billboard highlights two important points -- over 40 million Americans suffer from mental health issues and access to care is inadequate.

Cole, who did not respond to the APA's tweets or to CNNMoney's requests for comment, tweeted this message last week: "This ad not meant to further stigmatize those suffering from mental illness community in need & already under-served. #MentalHealth."

Gun control is not the first social issue Kenneth Cole has taken a stand on, nor is this the first time he's received criticism for his comments.

Cole has voiced support for liberal issues such as equal pay for women and marriage equality, but has received substantial backlash for tweets he made about Syria and Egypt.

In 2013, during the debate over America's possible engagement in the Syrian civil war, Cole used his personal account to tweet: "'Boots on the ground' or not, let's not forget about sandals, pumps and loafers. #Footwear."

In 2011, when deadly protests broke out in Egypt, Cole tweeted: "Millions are in uproar in #Cairo. Rumor is they heard our new spring collection is now available online... -KC." The tweet, which included a link to the company website, and the initials KC signified that he wrote the tweet himself.


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24. Dan Rather: Journalists must seize on gun violence as they seized on Ebola
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So guns are a disease? The Australia version of gun control wasn’t just a ban - it was flat out confiscation. Same in England.

Member Walter Jackson emailed me this:

From breitbart.com: http://tinyurl.com/puxm7ef
http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism ... -on-ebola/


Dan Rather: Journalists must seize on gun violence as they seized on Ebola
by AWR Hawkins
September 3, 2015

In the wake of the murders of WDBJ-TV’s Alison Parker and Adam Ward, former television news personality Dan Rather is urging journalists to seize on gun violence the way they seized on Ebola.

Rather contends that journalists are “failing us on gun violence” by doing anything less.

According to Mashable, Rather began pushing for such coverage on August 27–they day after Parker and Ward were gunned down by a former co-worker, who passed a background check to acquire his firearm. Rather said, “We will wring our hands, talk about missed warning signs, and ultimately move on. We’ll throw up our hands like we always do. It pains me to say this, but this is journalistic malpractice and a societal tragedy.”

He contends that there is a better way for journalists to cover this heinous crime and similar ones.

He points to the Australian gun ban as an option to the constitutionally protected right to keep and bear arms in the United States. He described Australia as a country possessing “a spirit of rugged individualism and … frontier like the United States,” yet they were able to ban guns, so why can’t we?

Rather encourages journalists to work toward such a ban by covering gun violence the same way they covered Ebola–relentlessly. And he stresses that journalists must do this even if it leads to anti-gun hysteria.

Rather’s exact words:

Think back to all the breathless coverage around the Ebola outbreak and the death of the patient in Dallas. That was indeed frightening, but there was a consensus that we as a nation must do whatever we could, spend whatever needed, to protect ourselves. And journalists dissected every angle, sometimes fueling the hysteria.


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25. Police recruits abandon dream amid anti-cop climate [VIDEO]
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Crime rates are already spiking due to criminals taking advantage of reduced police patrolling in certain cities.

From foxnews.com: http://tinyurl.com/pxvuw5m
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/02/wh ... p-climate/


"Who needs this?" Police recruits abandon dream amid anti-cop climate
by Edmund DeMarche
September 2, 2015

Police departments face a recruiting shortage amid a growing anti-cop mood that some fear has taken the pride out of peacekeeping and put targets on the backs of the men and women in blue.

Open calls for the killing of police have been followed by assassinations, including last week's murder in Texas of a Harris County sheriff's deputy. Instead of dialing back the incendiary rhetoric, groups including "Black Lives Matter" have instead doubled down at demonstrations with chants of "Pigs in a blanket, fry em like bacon." Public safety officials fear the net effect has been to demonize police, and diminish the job.

"It's a lot harder to sell now," Jeff Roorda, business manager of the St. Louis Police Officers Association and former state representative, told FoxNews.com. "This is a very real phenomenon."

Roorda's colleagues witnessed the fierce, anti-police rioting that followed the police shooting last year of Michael Brown in nearby Ferguson, Missouri. Even though a grand jury and a federal Justice Department inquiry did not fault Ferguson Police Officer Darren Wilson, debunked claims that the cop killed Brown as he held his hands up and begged for his life have animated the Black Lives Matter movement as it spread around the nation.

Roorda, who spoke in defense of police in the aftermath of the Ferguson shooting, said protesters took to Twitter to promote a #KillRoorda hashtag.

"You no longer just have to worry about your life while in uniform," he said. "Now you have to be worried about the well-being of your family," he said.

Roorda said the new academy class continues to be delayed and the police force loses about double the amount of officers per year than in the past.

Knowing police face public scorn or career-ending legal battles even if they acted properly has convinced many prospective cops to abandon their dreams of patrolling America's streets.

"I saw all this anti-cop propaganda and I was like, 'Who needs this?'” said Antonio, a New Yorker who asked that only his first name be used. The 32-year-old had applied and been accepted into the NYPD academy, but withdrew his candidacy amid the cop-bashing climate sweeping the country.

Even top police brass understand why the shield has lost its shine.

"Right now, policing is not the most attractive occupation that they could probably get into," Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey told CBS.

Recruitment nationally is "way down," said Jonathan Thompson, executive director of the National Sheriff’s Association. He said some sheriffs around the country say the number of applications has fallen by as much as 50 percent.

While blatant calls for killing cops are unusual, the job has always been dangerous. The National Law Enforcement Officers Memorial Fund, which monitors the number of police officers killed in the line of duty, tabulated 48 police officers around the nation were killed by gunfire in 2014. So far this year, 26 law enforcement officers have been shot to death on duty, putting the nation on track for a 19 percent decrease. But these numbers do not identify police officers intentionally targeted for the mere fact that they wear a badge.

Police in Texas believe that may have been the sole motivation for the murder Friday night of Harris County Sheriff's Officer Darren Goforth at a gas station in a Houston suburb. The suspect in that case, Shannon Jaruay Miles, allegedly came up behind Goforth as he pumped gas and shot the officer 15 times.

In December 2014, New York City Police Officers Wenjian Liu and his partner Rafael Ramos were killed in an ambush while sitting inside their patrol car on a Brooklyn streetcorner.

"No warning, no provocation," Police Commissioner William Bratton said at the time. "They were quite simply assassinated, targeted for their uniform."

The gunman reportedly announced online that he was planning to shoot two "pigs" to avenge the death of Eric Garner, a Staten Island, N.Y., man who died after being put in a chokehold by police who were arresting him for selling loose cigarettes.

"I'm putting wings on pigs today. They take 1 of ours, let's take 2 of theirs," Ismaaiyl Brinsley wrote on an Instagram account. Brinsley killed himself on a subway platform as police closed in on him.

There is currently a massive manhunt in Fox Lake, Ill., after a police officer was shot and killed while pursuing a group of men. Lt. Charles Joseph Gliniewicz, known affectionately as "GI Joe" was giving chase to three men on foot.

In addition to the Brown and Garner cases, the anti-police sentiment has been fueled by the April death in police custody of Freddie Gray in Baltimore and the fatal shooting, also in April, of Walter Scott in South Carolina. Six Baltimore police officers face charges in the death of Gray, who died of injuries suffered while being transported in a police van. North Charleston Police Officer Michael Slager has been charged with murder in Scott's shooting.

Galvanized by the deaths, Black Lives Matter has sought to bring attention to the issue of police brutality with protests around the nation.

"What's more uncomfortable, shouting, stopping freeways and interrupting speeches -- or being murdered by police and having your body left in the street for more than four hours, or turning up dead in a jail cell after a traffic stop?" the group posted on Facebook.

Some law enforcement officials believe President Obama has fanned the flames by not denouncing the movement more unequivocally, although he did personally call the widow of Goforth and has condemned violence against police.

"President Obama has breathed life into this ugly movement," Milwaukee County Sheriff David Clarke told "Fox & Friends." "And it is time now for good, law-abiding Americans to rise up. We now have to counter this slime, this filth coming out of these cop haters."

Sgt. Delroy Burton, chairman of the DC Police Union in Washington, compared the current treatment of police to veterans returning from the Vietnam War.

"We have to fight the bad guys, and the policymakers go unnoticed," he said.

Burton, who was born in Jamaica and is a former U.S. Marine, said his police force is about 131 officers understaffed and has seen nearly 600 officers resign in the past 19 months -- a number he said is unheard of.

"We're sitting ducks," he said. "We're in these uniforms, brightly colored cars and there's nothing we can do. And the vast majority supports this loud vocal minority."


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26. Gun control groups accused of 'swatting'
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Member Clayton Rhoades emailed me this:

About time this got more national coverage.


From foxnews.com: http://tinyurl.com/nnw8z9x
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/01/gu ... -lives-at/


Gun control groups accused of 'swatting' open-carry permit holders, putting lives at risk
by Perry Chiaramonte
September 1, 2015

Second Amendment groups are accusing the gun control lobby of putting law-abiding owners of firearms in danger by urging people to call the police on anyone carrying a gun in public.

As more states relax rules about open-carrying of guns, the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence has taken to social media to urge the public to assume gun-toters are trouble, and to call the cops on anyone they feel may be a threat.

“If you see someone carrying a firearm in public—openly or concealed—and have ANY doubts about their intent, call 911 immediately and ask police to come to the scene,” the group wrote on its widely followed Facebook page. “Never put your safety, or the safety of your loved ones, at the mercy of weak gun laws that arm individuals in public with little or no criminal and/or mental health screening.”

That approach, according to a blog post by Ohio-based Buckeye Firearms Association, could give rise to needless, tense confrontations between police and gun owners. The association and other similar groups liken the tactic to “swatting,” or the act of tricking an emergency service into dispatching responders based on a false report. Many online harassment campaigns have been known to participate in the practice.

“This practice is exactly what they [Coalition to Stop Gun Violence] are doing,” said Erich Pratt, spokesman for Virginia-based Gun Owners of America. “It’s one thing if someone is using a gun in an illegal or unlawful manner. No one is questioning that. But this clearly sounds like swatting.”

Pratt adds that it may be a move of desperation by those looking to get guns off the streets.

“Anti-gun advocates are clearly frustrated. They want guns banned,” he said. “But they have been thwarted in the past, so they are looking for alternative means.

“They are inciting their radical base to turn their own neighbors in.”

It is not the first time supporters of the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence and other gun control advocates have pressed for the public to call cops on legal gun owners. An October 2014 National Review article found that the Facebook pages and websites of groups including the coalition, Moms Demand Action and GunFreeZone.net included numerous comments from the public advocating that people call the police and intentionally exaggerate what they see in the hopes of getting cops to stop those open-carrying guns.

Open carry rules, in one form or another, are legal in every state except for five—California, Florida, Illinois, New York, and South Carolina, as well as the District of Columbia. However, many states that do permit open carry have put in place stringent laws that require some sort of permit or license.

The main issue that gun advocates have with the Coalition’s tactics is the potential of putting law-abiding citizens in real danger. Officials for the anti-gun group say that this is not the case.

“In an era in which individuals are being allowed to carry loaded guns on our streets with no permit, background check or required training, it is common sense for concerned citizens to call 911 when they see an armed individual whose intentions are unclear,” Ladd Everitt, director of communications for the Coalition to Stop Gun Violence said in a statement to FoxNews.com. “These [open carry] laws guarantee that we—and law enforcement—will have no idea about the criminal and/or mental health background of these individuals until they actually commit a crime; and by then it could be far too late. We have full confidence in our men and women in blue to assess these situations.

“Gun-toters who are truly law-abiding and mentally competent have nothing whatsoever to worry about. Their conversations with law enforcement will be brief and professional,” he added. “As for those who are dangerous and have something to hide which would not withstand the scrutiny of a background check or permitting process, they should expect to face some tough questions as a result of these 911 calls. And that makes us all safer.”

But the Buckeye Firearms Association believes the effort amounts to "conspiring to obstruct legal justice.”

Pratt agreed, and said people who call the police without legitimate reason should be charged.

“They would likely be the ones arrested for filing a false report,” he said. “And we are certainly hoping that would be the case.”



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Re: VA-ALERT: VCDL Update 10/13/15

Postby tumbler18 » Thu, 07 Sep 2017 07:24:15

:roll: Gun control in Virginia is an East/West issue. East of I95 the cities and towns tend to be more affluent with a higher-education level and socio-economic standards. West of I95, the population starts to drift into pro-Trump, white supremacy, nationalistic fervor. The gun nuts live primarily west of I95 -- and that's where most of the state's rural gun violence occurs.

Would it ever be possible to have gun control in one part of a state and not the other?

By the way, one of the source links is dead:

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