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by **allingeneral** » Wed, 05 May 2010 14:56:44

Police have arrested a 29-year-old Virginia Beach man in a home break-in and armed robbery of two people.
http://hamptonroads.com/2010/05/man-arr ... n?cid=ltst

Adibio Ijahmid Potter, of the 3800 block of Chimney Creek Drive in Virginia Beach, has been charged with robbery of a residence, attempted robbery, burglary, use of a firearm, abduction and wearing a mask in public, according to jail records.

Early Tuesday morning, two people were standing outside a residence in the 300 block of Scott Lane when a man approached them with a gun and pushed his way inside the home, said Officer Margie Hobbs, a police spokeswoman. One of them fled and called police, she said.

When officers arrived, they found the robber inside the home and arrested him, Hobbs said. They also recovered $55 that had been stolen, according to a police report filed online.

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Let's discuss this for a moment. Say you're in your yard (carrying, of course) and a guy does something as described here - runs past you into your house. What if you chase after him into your house, go through your house and find him in your bedroom, rummaging through your dresser.

I suppose you would have to be in fear of your life before pulling/firing on the intruder - i.e., "You saw something shiny in his hand as he began to advance toward you..."

by **ProShooter** » Wed, 05 May 2010 15:18:59

allingeneral wrote:Let's discuss this for a moment. Say you're in your yard (carrying, of course) and a guy does something as described here - runs past you into your house. What if you chase after him into your house, go through your house and find him in your bedroom, rummaging through your dresser.

Right there, if you shot him at that point, you'd be guilty of murder, or some variation.

by **wally626** » Wed, 05 May 2010 21:12:46

I think you want to do what they did here, leave and call the police. There is no advantage to chasing an armed crook anywhere. If he forces you in with him, then you may want to use the weapon if he is distracted.

by **WRW** » Wed, 05 May 2010 22:43:34

If one were to shoot the criminal, the time to do it would be as he approached with a gun.

by **zephyp** » Thu, 06 May 2010 04:59:47

I would be very hard pressed to merely stand there and watch a guy with a gun run into my house...this thing about family being in there and all that of course...when I work in the front yard Young is usually in the house or in the back yard...watching a scumbag with a gun run into my house is sufficient reason enough to follow him in order to protect family...

by **LFS** » Thu, 06 May 2010 20:42:50

zephyp wrote:I would be very hard pressed to merely stand there and watch a guy with a gun run into my house...this thing about family being in there and all that of course...when I work in the front yard Young is usually in the house or in the back yard...watching a scumbag with a gun run into my house is sufficient reason enough to follow him in order to protect family...

That's exactly what I was thinking, DK. My first thought would be "Where is my family?" If I couldn't account for all of them, I'd go into the house to find them.

by **Vahunter** » Fri, 07 May 2010 10:22:35

ProShooter wrote:
allingeneral wrote:Let's discuss this for a moment. Say you're in your yard (carrying, of course) and a guy does something as described here - runs past you into your house. What if you chase after him into your house, go through your house and find him in your bedroom, rummaging through your dresser.

Right there, if you shot him at that point, you'd be guilty of murder, or some variation.

Maybe in Va. Beach or Richmond or some other PC location but I doubt if you'd even need a lawyer here. :roll:

by **zephyp** » Sat, 08 May 2010 08:08:10

LFS wrote:
zephyp wrote:I would be very hard pressed to merely stand there and watch a guy with a gun run into my house...this thing about family being in there and all that of course...when I work in the front yard Young is usually in the house or in the back yard...watching a scumbag with a gun run into my house is sufficient reason enough to follow him in order to protect family...

That's exactly what I was thinking, DK. My first thought would be "Where is my family?" If I couldn't account for all of them, I'd go into the house to find them.

Precisely. Under any normal societal law I would think that to do anything less than follow him to look for and protect your family would be a crime...how did we as a nation get so far off track that the matter of protecting ourselves, our family, or our property could make us the criminal...THAT IN ITSELF IS CRIMINAL...

by **GS78** » Sat, 08 May 2010 08:26:06

well in response to the OP, I think if you followed him into the house and saw him "rummaging through" your sock drawer, you could draw on him, but you can not give even an intruder the death penalty for simple robbery....IF HOWEVER, when you draw on him he returns the favor.....then you can. :whistle:

by **VBshooter** » Sun, 09 May 2010 18:59:41

Sadder is it;s the state of VA much more so than the country,,even the states with stricter gun laws have better Castle Doctrine and deadly force laws than us.. We absolutely need to clean out the Senate of the bleeding heart liberal cowards that infect it. To me if he returns the favor... it's open season!!!

by **SlipknotG21** » Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:56:15

If he runs into my house ...I an already in fear for my daughter and wifes life..I keep a nice big knife just in case he is not armed.....

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by **davasmith** » Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:45:45

Guys, simple solution. Step in front of the intruder at the door making him physically have to move or "threaten" you, then pull your sidearm and make hamburger out of the ass. Police are trained to physically challenge a suspect by stepping in front a person even in a vehicle and commanding them to stop. If they proceed in driving toward them, they can and will legally open fire for immenent fear of life. Same should apply to your home/family. Once you've stepped in front and commanded the intruder to stop if he does anything but comply, let the lead fly! (I heard that somewhere some years ago.) :packin:

by **kerchaulk1972** » Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:21:49

zephyp wrote:I would be very hard pressed to merely stand there and watch a guy with a gun run into my house...this thing about family being in there and all that of course...when I work in the front yard Young is usually in the house or in the back yard...watching a scumbag with a gun run into my house is sufficient reason enough to follow him in order to protect family...

This^. Bad guy has already shown poor judgement by running into my house with a gun. I have to assume he means any one in there harm.

by **Kreutz** » Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:02:52

My wife mocked me for carrying while mowing the lawn, I'm gonna show her this. Thanks!

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