TBob wrote:The keys to mounting a successful resistance are logistics and communications. These enable the interoperability of small, mobile cells.
Logistics in the case of a fixed area with limited or non-existent resupply, for example VA after a zombie apocalypse or alien destruction of infrastructure, would be the prepositioning of copious amounts of anticipated necessary supplies scattered around strategic areas. These would include ammunition, weapons, cleaning & lube for weapons, knife sharpening ceramics, batteries, radios, sparking and fire starting material, low-visibility shelters, medical trauma kits, medications, dry and canned food stuffs, water, and normal non-perishable necessities like toilet paper. Probably other stuff I'm not remembering at the moment. As much dispersion as possible should be used so that the compromise of any one stash would not be a huge loss.
Comms would best be something with low probability of detection and intercept. HF radio sounds great and has long range, but can easily be intercepted and DFed to the user if the enemy has that capability (not zombies, obviously). They also eat batteries like crazy. Better would be frequency-hopping radios like Have Quick capability in UHF/VHF or the 2m band. There would have to be stored with a prearranged key set that would extend out for some time. Coded (or non-coded if necessary) HF could be used for occasional region-wide coordination at known, preset intervals, while the Have Quick UHF/VHF would be the backbone comms of the cells. The details would obviously depend on the enemy capabilities and how much of the infrastructure survives, especially the electrical grid.
The resistance cells should small and routinely operate independently to both minimize large losses at any one time and to provide greater stealth. They must be mobile to minimize exposure, and their exact location should remain unknown to other cells. Each cell should operate in a predesignated kill box whose size would depend on terrain, cell size, target environment, and overall size of the resistance. Cells could combine temporarily to conduct larger operations as needed. The LPD/LPI comms enable coordinated actions.
Just some quick thoughts off the top of my head, more geared to a zombie infestation or alien invasion but generally applicable to any resistance movement.
Sounds like you've read the book Patriot...no, actually it sounds like you WROTE the book! You lead, I'll follow orders, sir (that is, if you can tolerate an overweight 50 year old ex sailor)
And for those reading it's SCOTTISH, not "KKK" clans!
A few of us have things stockpiled, but not very much, the amount needed according to most disasters, you'd need a SECOND HOME, or a REALLY big basement!
I've seen a couple people dig there own root cellars for storage. But the key to long term survival is hunting and farming.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” -Winston Churchill
I think I'd be up for a team in this resistance. I've got creds in just about everything. I'm an army veteran( combat recon still in fine shape), EMT with RN training, former auto tech( can weld too), impeccable navigation and survival skills, I can hunt, fish, protect, lead, follow orders, reason capacities are excellent, I can drive anything, fix darn near everything, mediate, compromise and above all I have the will to do things that others would cringe at. (trust me on this one). I'm not trying to brag but for some reason my life has always taken down a path that leads me to acquire these skills and is continuing today. I cannot help but think that the reason could be to help me and my loved ones survive if the need were to arise. I am not a religious man but I have have an overwhelming faith in God. Sometimes before a storm he prepares us for it without us even knowing.
My Arsenal: Glock 30, Glock 19, Glock 26, Mosin Nagant, LRB AR decked out. Colts & Kimbers are what you show your friends. Glocks are what you show your enemies.
Chesterfield, Amateur radio operator with privileges up into the 1.2+ GHZ area, not that it would stop us from using any available channels. Small solar panels will recharge the hand held batteries quite well, and even run a small repeater if needed. One neat trick some of us Hams use is 440MHZ to a dual band unit which then retransmits on 2 meters, or any other freq you want, then relays back to the 44o unit. Have firepower, ammo, and a very secluded place about 30-40 miles out with plenty of wildlife, and little to no other people for quite a ways. Could be useful.
scrubber3 wrote:I think I'd be up for a team in this resistance. I've got creds in just about everything. I'm an army veteran( combat recon still in fine shape), EMT with RN training, former auto tech( can weld too), impeccable navigation and survival skills, I can hunt, fish, protect, lead, follow orders, reason capacities are excellent, I can drive anything, fix darn near everything, mediate, compromise and above all I have the will to do things that others would cringe at. (trust me on this one). I'm not trying to brag but for some reason my life has always taken down a path that leads me to acquire these skills and is continuing today. I cannot help but think that the reason could be to help me and my loved ones survive if the need were to arise. I am not a religious man but I have have an overwhelming faith in God. Sometimes before a storm he prepares us for it without us even knowing.
All we need now is a centralized "bug out" spot for everyone from this forum to meet with the weapons, ammo, food, energy sources, supplies, etc. And of course a "secret handshake" to flush out the Democrats who suddenly realized how wrong they were -- about everything.
Some ships are designed to sink ... others require our assistance.
FiremanBob wrote:Just finished reading The Road by McCarthy. Worst-case scenario.
The class below me(high school juniors) is reading it as a school project and I keep getting told to read it by friends and teachers that know I'm into this gun/gear stuff. Maybe I'll finally pick it up.
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery.” -Winston Churchill
scrubber3 wrote:I think I'd be up for a team in this resistance. I've got creds in just about everything. I'm an army veteran( combat recon still in fine shape), EMT with RN training, former auto tech( can weld too), impeccable navigation and survival skills, I can hunt, fish, protect, lead, follow orders, reason capacities are excellent, I can drive anything, fix darn near everything, mediate, compromise and above all I have the will to do things that others would cringe at. (trust me on this one). I'm not trying to brag but for some reason my life has always taken down a path that leads me to acquire these skills and is continuing today. I cannot help but think that the reason could be to help me and my loved ones survive if the need were to arise. I am not a religious man but I have have an overwhelming faith in God. Sometimes before a storm he prepares us for it without us even knowing.
I'm just sayin......
Sounds like a Prepper's dating site intro
you have no idea how much I've wanted a zombie apocalyptic scenario to test myself in. Can you imagine? Natural selection would start back up for the human race and all the idiots would meet their demise leaving the cream of the crop to rebuild and have endless target practice. how cool is that? Lol
My Arsenal: Glock 30, Glock 19, Glock 26, Mosin Nagant, LRB AR decked out. Colts & Kimbers are what you show your friends. Glocks are what you show your enemies.
You know what happen when I read "The Road"? I drank. I couldn't watch but 20 minutes of the movie. That's not "Worst Case Scenario", that's "Where's that .45, and I hope gun oil taste as good as it smells."
Let's face it, there are some situations I do NOT wanna make it thru! For me? There's an afterlife much better than this I tolerate. I want to survive if there is a chance for redemption, and a life... not "being alive".
I don't usually talk about this to anyone save my husband.
I worry that I will get those looks like ohh hunny you are crazy... so here goes... I prep for the worst and hope for the best. Tried to warn my extended family that they should be stocking up on food storage at least.
I am a professional chef, Have a culinary degree, and B&P degree. I am really good at long bow. I can clean, and denude any animal (love my knives). Have had lots of practice cutting up whole cows, chicken, fish, rabbits, etc. Can cook up a storm, and love cast iron. Been teaching myself gardening and planting.
I can tan an animal hide, sew, crochete, knitt, etc.
Just to name a few of the the things I do/know how to do.
I would imagine the first step would be to get out of doge, get out of most populated areas to a less populated area. Having stashes in other areas are a great idea. Regroup in BO location and then plan the resistance.
I am going to be working on my shooting skills, cause while those of us at the homestead are going to be working on food, and cleaning we will have to defend as well. =) My two cents...
"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves." Abraham Lincoln
My Arsenal: I currently don't own any fire arms. I plan on buying some very soon. I grew up around them. I have used M16 A2, 50 caliber machine gun, and various other guns, such as a 22 long rifle. I don't remember them all as my dad used to let me shoot with him.
It has occurred to me that when selecting a BO location, you should think about gravity a little bit. What I mean by that is that THE most basic necessity of water will stop flowing for lack of electricity in most urban areas because the water must be pumped. But there are still many small communities in the foothills and mountains where water is, or at least can be, supplied solely by gravity. I am fortunate to live in one such. Puts a somewhat different face on your home as a redoubt against chaos.
I’ve said before that I’m not really into prepping, but it seems the topic is becoming ever more relevant; both in popular culture and as a result of the national and global political and economic environment. This brings me to a rather sober question: How long could a 60 year old cripple last in a post-apocalyptic world? Maybe some folks would be surprised. Even if you’re no longer swift and strong, tough and ornery counts for something. I'm not likely to erect any concrete bunkers, but I will agree that some degree of preparation is looking less and less crazy. If you were to arrange to have enough guns and bullets on hand to defend the hearth and home and perhaps trade for other necessities (of course I don’t have any such thing, but I could hock SWMBO’s jewels and BUY some) and an uninterrupted water supply, and if you have extended younger family with whom you can join forces, just maybe you would otherwise have a good enough chance of survival to warrant socking a few 5-gallon buckets of that dehydrated food in the basement just in case. And I can generate another commodity that would stand in as currency in such a situation: I can make damn good beer! Maybe I should, if things get really bad, stockpile a small mountain of dried malt extract. And if we never see the SHTF, liquidating the stockpile won’t hurt none a-tall.
"The Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference." -Thomas Jefferson
My Arsenal: I don't think it's a good idea to put that online. WHO KNOWS who's checking? I love big-caliber and longe-range rifles and 1911 pistols, and I've got a few.
OakRidgeStars wrote:Do we have any ham radio operators?. Maybe a certain frequency for VGOF members?. Of course, that would require repeaters and such for better coverage.
from the general concentration map on page 1, it appears the majority of people are in NoVA, Richmond, or VA beach. The question is, do we make those points our rally locations, or do we have people trek out to less populated areas first.
scrubber3 wrote:I think I'd be up for a team in this resistance. I've got creds in just about everything. I'm an army veteran( combat recon still in fine shape), EMT with RN training, former auto tech( can weld too), impeccable navigation and survival skills, I can hunt, fish, protect, lead, follow orders, reason capacities are excellent, I can drive anything, fix darn near everything, mediate, compromise and above all I have the will to do things that others would cringe at. (trust me on this one). I'm not trying to brag but for some reason my life has always taken down a path that leads me to acquire these skills and is continuing today. I cannot help but think that the reason could be to help me and my loved ones survive if the need were to arise. I am not a religious man but I have have an overwhelming faith in God. Sometimes before a storm he prepares us for it without us even knowing.
I'm just sayin......
Sounds like a Prepper's dating site intro
you have no idea how much I've wanted a zombie apocalyptic scenario to test myself in. Can you imagine? Natural selection would start back up for the human race and all the idiots would meet their demise leaving the cream of the crop to rebuild and have endless target practice. how cool is that? Lol
Isn't that Darwin's theory anyway? Natural selection. Weed out the dead wood so to speak. I watched Rumors of War III on GBTV the other day. If you ever needed a reason to set up a resistance that gives you one.
bryanrheem wrote:from the general concentration map on page 1, it appears the majority of people are in NoVA, Richmond, or VA beach. The question is, do we make those points our rally locations, or do we have people trek out to less populated areas first.
That may depend if we need to fight out way out of the major cities. We may need backup
bryanrheem wrote:from the general concentration map on page 1, it appears the majority of people are in NoVA, Richmond, or VA beach. The question is, do we make those points our rally locations, or do we have people trek out to less populated areas first.
That may depend if we need to fight out way out of the major cities. We may need backup
Agreed. It will be easier to stand off as a group rather than an individual. On the other hand if we need to secretly get to a location it would be harder to travel in a big group. Maybe there should be a Plan A & a Plan B for both scenarios?
I invite everyone to come to the range with me. It's as simple as letting me know what day you want to meet up.
Agreed. It will be easier to stand off as a group rather than an individual. On the other hand if we need to secretly get to a location it would be harder to travel in a big group. Maybe there should be a Plan A & a Plan B for both scenarios?
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