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My question is: I have my CHP if an establishment clearly states no handguns does this mean I cannot carry in that establishment with my CHP? I am still confused on the Virginia Codes about concealed handgun permits. What about the other establishments discussed i.e. banks, hospitals ect. (not like I would in those places)
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IANAL, however , my feeling is that if a business has a "no guns" sign posted but they don't know that you are carrying, I don't worry about it.
If they do see your concealed gun and ask you to leave then you must leave or be charged with trespassing.
Post Offices, airports, some federal bldgs., jails, etc. are a different story.
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Signs don't carry the weight of law in Virginia. If you're on private property and asked to leave for any reason, you can be charged with trespassing.
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I will note that one exception to this is facilities occupied by any executive agency of Virginia. E.g., DMV offices and ABC stores. They have "no guns" signs posted, in accordance with McAuliffe's Executive Order 50 and 1 VAC 30-105.
The difference with these signs is that they ARE enforceable. On private property, as mentioned above, you are not violating state law by carrying concealed where they have a "no guns" sign - unless you refuse to leave after they have asked you to. Then you are trespassing.
But in an ABC store or DMV office, you ARE violating this regulation by carrying concealed into those facilities. I have not yet determined exactly what the penalty is, but the regulation says "The occupying agency shall be responsible for enforcing this chapter."
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"But in an ABC store or DMV office, you ARE violating this regulation by carrying concealed into those facilities. I have not yet determined exactly what the penalty is, but the regulation says 'The occupying agency shall be responsible for enforcing this chapter."
That is CORRECT! What I find amusing are those who WORK there? Aren't PRESSING it, because they would rather have that as an "add-on" charge if something goes down, than a "primary" charge, and have it challenged in COURT!
Funny how that works, right?
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