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Remember what I said half a year ago about what joe Biden said..." we will need you to stand behind us, because it will seem like barrack is doing the wrong thing," anyone remember that?

GS78 wrote:Remember what I said half a year ago about what joe Biden said..." we will need you to stand behind us, because it will seem like barrack is doing the wrong thing," anyone remember that?

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 076431.ece



Alinsky rule #13: identify, isolate, freeze and escalate...

Obama is picking the wrong fight here, I guarantee it.

GS78 wrote: Obama is picking the wrong fight here, I guarantee it.

You are very wrong my friend. He is picking precisely the fight that was meant to be eons ago when God laid the foundations of the earth. This is all meant to be.

The obama administration is setting Israel up. Sooner or later they (Israel) will break off completely and pre-emptively attack Iran and their nuclear power plant. Watch for that closely and see what obama does.

For the answer, read your Bible...but you already know what it says...

well, I am just going to say this;

Obama, who is an Islamic sympathizer, is acting out against Israel in order to isolate them and make them weaker to appease the arabs(who he prostated himself before).

He announced today that he has been working with Russia and China to diminish the nuke stockpiles of (at least the US)( I think everyone knows the chinese and russians are NOT going to abide by this treaty the way they have NOT abided by others)


He is pushing Israel, our only true ally in the middle east, into a situation where they will not be able to count on us when Iran attacks. He thinks if he withholds American power when Israel is attacked, it will weaken them significantly and the balance of power will find its own level.... Thats the flawed thinking of such an inept "leader" as Obama has proved to be.

He is sadly mistaken.
Ezekiel 38.



Obama and the dems are hell bent on making us a part of the problem, not the solution.

As such I am beginning to understand why America is not part of prophecy.

GS78 wrote:well, I am just going to say this;

Obama, who is an Islamic sympathizer, is acting out against Israel in order to isolate them and make them weaker to appease the arabs(who he prostated himself before).

He announced today that he has been working with Russia and China to diminish the nuke stockpiles of (at least the US)( I think everyone knows the chinese and russians are NOT going to abide by this treaty the way they have NOT abided by others)


He is pushing Israel, our only true ally in the middle east, into a situation where they will not be able to count on us when Iran attacks. He thinks if he withholds American power when Israel is attacked, it will weaken them significantly and the balance of power will find its own level.... Thats the flawed thinking of such an inept "leader" as Obama has proved to be.

He is sadly mistaken.
Ezekiel 38.



Obama and the dems are hell bent on making us a part of the problem, not the solution.

As such I am beginning to understand why America is not part of prophecy.

Perhaps not directly but I definitely think we are part of setting the stage...

GS78 wrote:well, I am just going to say this;

Obama, who is an Islamic sympathizer, is acting out against Israel in order to isolate them and make them weaker to appease the arabs(who he prostated himself before).

He announced today that he has been working with Russia and China to diminish the nuke stockpiles of (at least the US)( I think everyone knows the chinese and russians are NOT going to abide by this treaty the way they have NOT abided by others)


He is pushing Israel, our only true ally in the middle east, into a situation where they will not be able to count on us when Iran attacks. He thinks if he withholds American power when Israel is attacked, it will weaken them significantly and the balance of power will find its own level.... Thats the flawed thinking of such an inept "leader" as Obama has proved to be.

He is sadly mistaken.
Ezekiel 38.



Obama and the dems are hell bent on making us a part of the problem, not the solution.

As such I am beginning to understand why America is not part of prophecy.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/137869


If you understand what your Bible says about this, you would be wise to take note.

Indeed, prophecy fulfilled...more to come and now is a good time to get close to God...

OK, one question.

1.) How is building these additional settlements in East Jerusalem helping the peace process?

CowboyT wrote:OK, one question.

1.) How is building these additional settlements in East Jerusalem helping the peace process?

to your question I am Not sure that it is

But Iseral does have the right to protect itself

CowboyT wrote:OK, one question.

1.) How is building these additional settlements in East Jerusalem helping the peace process?

It isn't, but does it really matter? The rest of the Arabs don't even want the Palestinians and only support them because they are a thorn in Israel's side. There isn't going to be any peace in that region until Israel quits being Jewish and the Palestinians quit being Muslim. This isn't some new modern problem, it has been going on since the birth of Islam. Technically, it has been going on even longer than that, but just with a different advisory.

I have a feeling that if it wasn't for US restraint on Israel, they would have finished off this problem a long time ago. Not saying it would be right, but they tend to have more guts for stuff like that.

gunderwood wrote:I have a feeling that if it wasn't for US restraint on Israel, they would have finished off this problem a long time ago. Not saying it would be right, but they tend to have more guts for stuff like that.

Touchdown. Preciesely the number one reason we are such good "friends" with them. Our government knows they would make a couple of new glass parking lots thereby ruining our oil supply. Not saying thats the right reason but merely the way it is. Many Americans dont realize this. They think our ties are because of the common Biblical heritage which is ironically also posessed by the muslims.

um, I don't think there is a lot of oil in Gaza, I could be wrong though. As far as the peace process and how it relates to building in East Jerusalem, or anywhere in Israel is irrelovent. The arabs don't want peace with Israel, never have, never will. Israel has made concessions to them numerous times to no avail. Americans are about to learn a lesson about appeasement to arabs the hard way. Jerusalem is and will always be the capital of Israel. They can and will build anywhere they please. Can you imagine the uproar in this country when the muslims try to limit where americans can build?... try to, because that days is coming.

GS78 wrote:um, I don't think there is a lot of oil in Gaza, I could be wrong though. As far as the peace process and how it relates to building in East Jerusalem, or anywhere in Israel is irrelovent. The arabs don't want peace with Israel, never have, never will. Israel has made concessions to them numerous times to no avail. Americans are about to learn a lesson about appeasement to arabs the hard way. Jerusalem is and will always be the capital of Israel. They can and will build anywhere they please. Can you imagine the uproar in this country when the muslims try to limit where americans can build?... try to, because that days is coming.

No theres not but if we didnt sit on Israel's hand how long do you think it would be before the oil coming out of the middle east would be threatened...Gaza isnt the only place they would light up...remember the scuds that hit Israel back during the first gulf war...why dont you think they didnt make one [glass parking lot] then over in Iraq...and let us not forget Iran, etc...

GS78 wrote:well, I am just going to say this;

Obama, who is an Islamic sympathizer, is acting out against Israel in order to isolate them and make them weaker to appease the arabs(who he prostated himself before).

He announced today that he has been working with Russia and China to diminish the nuke stockpiles of (at least the US)( I think everyone knows the chinese and russians are NOT going to abide by this treaty the way they have NOT abided by others)


He is pushing Israel, our only true ally in the middle east, into a situation where they will not be able to count on us when Iran attacks. He thinks if he withholds American power when Israel is attacked, it will weaken them significantly and the balance of power will find its own level.... Thats the flawed thinking of such an inept "leader" as Obama has proved to be.

He is sadly mistaken.
Ezekiel 38.



Obama and the dems are hell bent on making us a part of the problem, not the solution.

As such I am beginning to understand why America is not part of prophecy.

seems this thread has gained some new significance.

We now know that Obama has stabbed many of our allies in the back, and has propped up the Muslim revolutionaries around the middle east and Africa.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/obama-met-m ... s-1.277306

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&sour ... =&aql=&oq=
He met with the same group of Islamic terrorists that are now trying desperately to take a power position in Egypt .

some more or the players at work behind the scenes in the middle east and africa....


http://a12iggymom.wordpress.com/2011/02 ... -surprise/




http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/re ... d=59570529



....there is much more than meets the eye in this mess, and our president is in up to his eyeballs....