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Senator Jim Webb wrote:senator_jim_webb@webb.enews.senate.gov]
Subject: Do Not Destroy the American Economy in Order to Save It

July 28, 2011

Don't Destroy the American Economy in Order to Save It

Yesterday, I expressed my support for the Majority Leader's plan to raise the debt ceiling and reduce the deficit. Below is a transcript of my remarks on the Senate floor (you can also view the video above):
Our nation, as we all know, faces a looming crisis.
The markets have already warned us. Businesses are already postponing investments. We know the consequences of inaction; they are predictable: Borrowing costs for businesses and individuals will escalate. Interest payments on the debt will grow, and already anemic job growth will decline. Our nation will run the risk of another financial catastrophe and possibly a return to recession. As Chairman Bernanke recently stated, the outcome would be "calamitous."

Many Americans are struggling. Far too many remain out of work. They cannot be asked to absorb the shockwaves of yet another failure to act. It is time for both sides and both chambers to find common ground.

Reasonable and responsible editorials from across the country have endorsed the Majority Leader's proposal. Well-meaning people on all sides have shown genuine concern. Most all of us share those concerns about the implications of not acting.

There are in the other party some individuals who view themselves as revolutionaries in the best sense of the word. They appear less concerned with the here and now than with where they want to take the country in the future. We all understand that the two are connected and that looking to the future is vital to the country. The question, though, is the harm that might be caused by precipitous action.

Columnist George Will wrote a column a few days ago likening the Tea Party movement of today to the beginning of the Goldwater-Reagan conservative era--that the Goldwater movement of 1964, even though it did not bring Senator Goldwater to the Presidency, was the first step toward the conservative revolution that culminated in Ronald Reagan's election in 1980.

Mr. Will wrote, and I am going to quote a couple of sentences, "The Tea Party, the most welcome political development since the Goldwater insurgency in 1964, lacks only the patience necessary when America lacks the consensus required to propel fundamental change."

Mr. Will goes on to say, "If Washington’s trajectory could be turned as quickly as Tea Partiers wish, their movement would not be as necessary as it is."

Those are Mr. Will's words; that is Mr. Will's considered opinion. That may be so, and it may not be so, but the first rule of good governance is to do no harm. That doesn't mean we shouldn't make cuts. That doesn't mean we shouldn't look toward some of the directions that the debate has taken us. But it means be careful when you are dealing with the fragility of national policy at a time like this. Some things sound better in a speech to a room full of activists than they actually are in the reality of how you govern and the practicality of how you actually bring about change where change is needed.

Senator Goldwater did not attempt to torpedo the economy in order to get his way. Ronald Reagan, in whose administration I proudly served, raised the national debt eighteen times—more than any other president.

I fought in Vietnam as an infantry Marine. I am very proud of that. Those of us who did fight in Vietnam all remember the regretful quote of one infantry officer who lamented that during one battle he had to call in heavy artillery and airstrikes on a populated village, that he had to "destroy a village in order to save it."

I do not think the Republicans, who are using this issue as a lever to bring about their view of radical change, want to look back at a fractured economic recovery, a downgraded credit rating for the world's number one economy, a citizenry that has become more angry and less capable of predicting its own financial future, and then say, as if all of this were not predictable, that they destroyed the American economy in order to save it.



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m4a1mustang wrote:Both sides are destroying the economy, Senator Webb!

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dorminWS wrote:It wouldn’t surprise me if we still get a credit downgrade on US government debt.

gunderwood wrote:

dorminWS wrote:It wouldn’t surprise me if we still get a credit downgrade on US government debt.

IMHO it's almost guaranteed. IIRC, the credit raters wanted to see a plan that would actually reduce the debt, not just the deficit. You have to eliminate the deficit and some to get a surplus, then apply that to the debt to actually reduce it. These guys can't even trim the deficit in any meaningful way, let alone actually pay off some of the debt they have incurred. Interest only loan anyone?

zephyp wrote:

gunderwood wrote:

dorminWS wrote:It wouldn’t surprise me if we still get a credit downgrade on US government debt.

IMHO it's almost guaranteed. IIRC, the credit raters wanted to see a plan that would actually reduce the debt, not just the deficit. You have to eliminate the deficit and some to get a surplus, then apply that to the debt to actually reduce it. These guys can't even trim the deficit in any meaningful way, let alone actually pay off some of the debt they have incurred. Interest only loan anyone?

Indeed. If Moody's and S&P are true to their word they will cut the credit rating. I hope so. I dont need any loans and have a bucket load of cash. Drive up the interest rates on those 10 year notes...1984 ~14%....all backed by the good faith of the US...never mind...

zephyp wrote:In all honesty after watching the debt limit fiasco I am at a loss to voice which side is worse...they are both bad and need to be completely replaced...the big problem with introducing a 3rd party is a split ticket in the 2012 election and almost a sure give away to obama...