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Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner also slid around Mr. Obama’s vow and said, “We have to bring these deficits down very dramatically. And that’s going to require some very hard choices.”


White House economist Larry Summers wouldn’t repeat Mr. Obama’s pre-election promise. “It is never a good idea to absolutely rule things out no matter what,”


Democrats already plan to repeal the Bush tax cuts, but that won’t raise enough money. So they’re proposing an income tax surcharge on “the wealthy,” but that won’t raise enough either. Democrats have no choice but to soak the middle class because only they have enough money to finance the liberal dream of yoking the middle class to cradle-to-grave government entitlements.

Democrats have already taxed the middle class by raising cigarette taxes to pay for the children’s health-care expansion. They’re also teeing up average earners with their cap-and-tax energy bill. Mr. Obama had hoped that cap-and-tax would raise some $646 billion over a decade, but Democrats in the House had to give most of that away in bribes to business to pass their bill. To finance ObamaCare, they’re also proposing another 10-percentage-point increase in the payroll tax on firms and individuals that don’t purchase health insurance. But this won’t raise enough money either.

So waiting in the wings is the biggest middle-class tax increase of them all: a European-style value added tax, or VAT. This tax would apply to every level of production or service, and it is beloved by politicians in Europe because it raises so much money so easily without voters noticing. Ezekiel Emanuel, a White House aide and brother of Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, has advocated a 10% VAT to finance national health care. Look for a VAT to be one of the prominent options when Mr. Obama’s tax reform commission issues its report later this year.
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The VAT is a consumption tax that is placed on a product whenever value is added at a stage of production and at final sale. For example, as Investopedia.com explains, "When a television is built by a company in Europe the manufacturer is charged a VAT on all of the supplies they purchase for producing the television. Once the television reaches the shelf, the consumer who purchases it must pay the VAT that applies to him or her."

Now that health care reform has actually been passed by Congress, the options of stopping it are growing more and more limited. According to syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer, this expensive unfunded liability won't likely be undone in the Supreme Court.

[...] Therefore, Krauthammer contends this liability will lead to the federal government instituting a VAT for the first time in the United States.

"But then I think there is a larger issue here," Krauthammer said. "I think ultimately Obama understands that he has just added an unbelievably large entitlement on to a country drowning in debt. He is not stupid. I think he is anticipated this, and I think he is, from the beginning, had a plan and the plan is he is going to use the Deficit Reduction Commission, which will report only after November, and I'm absolutely sure it will recommend something new in American history, a national sales tax which is called a VAT in Europe."


Cutting right to the chase, a VAT is nothing less than a broad-based tax hike on the middle class - despite Obama's promise of no new taxes on this group of Americans (a promise already broken with Obamacare), and if you're a betting man or woman, you can safely bet your bottom dollar that Krauthammer's right on target. Along with Obama being in the course of taking the U.S. to the equivalent of a European-style nanny state, his Deficit Reduction Commission will be used to push a VAT on the U.S.

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2010/ ... a_have.php

The VAT is something we do not need and least of all to help pay for some pinheads socialistic dream of of how America should be, any and all activities by the Congress and Obigmistake need to be scrutinized very closely now and in the future. Both have shown that they have no qualm in getting their way using any method possible including blatant misapplication of the Constitution to suit their sick agenda. True Americans need to remain vigilant and continue to oppose these excuses for elected officials while moving forward to remove them form office at the first chance and restore the country to it's conservative values and strength once again.

and now this; Democrat Henry Waxman (Calif.) is proposing to hold Senate Hearings on anyone who reports losses directly related to The healthcare Law. What he is doing is threatening any corporation with being dragged before a Senate Committee, in which the entire country will scrutinize their finacial health according to their own books,(on cspan ) and Waxman says he wants them to bring ALL Emails between CEO's and officers of the corporation, all memos, all everything!.... ofcourse if they just shut up and take it in the rear like the american peasants do, everything will be OK.

http://gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?ac ... ic=25310.0

http://www.examiner.com/x-19823-PostPar ... -Obamacare



When all else fails use Intimidation, this is a government gone mad.

Waxman and his other bonehaeds from Crapifornia need to be gone too. Seems like almost all of the BS coming from Congress can be attributed to reps from only a few states. And CA has way too much of it. California liberalism is making me and this nation very ill. They have way too much influence in the Congress.If the people of that state ever wake up and decide to join the Union they may see the error of their ways and actually elect someone with a clue. Waxman making threats and such is the normal MO for the Dumbocrats, Beg ,borrow ,steal ,threaten,cajole or whatever it takes is the way with these self annointed morons. I hope the industry people tell that onion headed clown Waxman to take a flying leap and to shove his Senate committe up his butt. It's time to put PC aside, stop playing footsie and tell these jackasses that we are done taking or listening to their BS and they can start cleaning out their desks for the next occupant.

Yep. The dems are emboldened now by their health care win. They are and will continue to step up their brazen acts. I cant wait to see how they conduct themselves before during and after the mid-terms.

True story from yesterday in Woodbridge VA. I went to the CVS to refill a prescription, and this lady is in front of me at the pharmacy counter trying to get her prescription. She is hispanic and speaks absolutely no English at all. The guy behind the counter does not speak Spanish. The lady hands him her ID Card, and he walks over to the bins and looks for about 5 minutes for a bag with that last name (no luck). He advises her that he has nothing under that name. She starts the "Ah Dios Mio, si este es mi taejeta, por favor"!! He walks over and checks the computer, and again nothing for that name on her ID. Next she hands him a second card which from behind looks to be some kind of insurance card. He looks at that card and tells the pharmacist that this name is different from the ID card before. He checks all the bins again, and still nothing. Now a long line is forming behind me (about 5 to 6 more people waiting now). He picks up the phone and calls for another employee in the store that speaks Spanish to come translate for him. Another employee comes back to the counter and speaks to the woman. She explained to the Spanish speaking employee, that she dropped off a pill bottle earlier and it was a refill. They dig in the trash can behind the counter and find the bottle. The bottle is identified by the woman, and they verbally point out that the bottle contains a third name, not listed on the ID Card or the Prescription Card. The lady is still doing the "No Comprende!" routine.
The people in the line are getting upset now, and the counter employee just scans the bag and takes the money from the woman (paid in cash) and lets her walk out with the medicine. The woman does not know the name on the bottle to tell the Spanish speaking employee, has two different IDs in her possession, neither of which are on that bottle, and simply stands there and shrugs her shoulders and says "No Comprende, and Dios Mio and Por Favor" until they hand over the medicine.

These are the people that I imagine the Obamacare is going to help more, and who I will be paying more for also! CVS probably should have called the police on her, not inconvienced the entire line of people there with proper ID and real prescriptions to fill!

Yup that what all those self serving do gooders want health care reform for, It's not for the working class,it's for the dregs on society that drag it down and the jackass politicians go out if their way to protect.As working people We get eh privelidge of paying for the tickets but we can't ride the train, It is time for people to get a spine and speak out against this CRAP. No more PC, or race card or any other nonsense that they've used for years. Flat out tell them ...No more!!! We need leaders to express this as blatantly as possible. The more conservative the better.