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by **TheGodfather** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:19:51

ATF: Car Bomb Behind Michigan Blast That Injured Father, 2 Kids

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/21/po ... z1YgdYjY8t

Islamic Center Opens Its Doors Near Ground Zero

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/22/is ... z1YgdbaT9W

Both happened on the same day. Also, let's not forget that Michigan happens to be the state that harbors a town that is likely being used for muslim terrorist recruitment and training (Dearborn) and it's only one county away from the car bomb.

by **Skeptic** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:19:22

That seems to be a bit of a stretch...

by **TheGodfather** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:26:14

Skeptic wrote:That seems to be a bit of a stretch...

How so? How often do car bombs go off in the US? Almost never.

Yet, one goes off on the same day Muslims celebrate the 9/11 killing of "infidels" by opening a Mosque at the site. And the car bomb just happens to be a county away from one of the strongest muslim territories in the US. Doesn't sound like a stretch to me at all. Just sounds like muslims being muslims.

by **Skeptic** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:33:19

TheGodfather wrote:
Skeptic wrote:That seems to be a bit of a stretch...

How so? How often do car bombs go off in the US? Almost never.

Yet, one goes off on the same day Muslims celebrate the 9/11 killing of "infidels" by opening a Mosque at the site. And the car bomb just happens to be a county away from one of the strongest muslim territories in the US. Doesn't sound like a stretch to me at all. Just sounds like muslims being muslims.

The mob uses car bombs, and last time I checked few of them are of the Islamic faith.

Also generally jihadist car bombs tend to be of the variety where the jihadists are driving the car into something (a building or marketplace) to kill many others. Or else a car left in a crowded area. It's not really the MO of the Jihad Boys.

And meanwhile the Jihad Boys tend to be much louder when they are responsible for an attack - they want to spread terror and gain infamy. Little to be gained in an attack like the one in Michigan if you dont claim credit for it.

by **TheGodfather** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:48:53

Skeptic wrote:The mob uses car bombs, and last time I checked few of them are of the Islamic faith.

Muslim car bombs are happening almost daily in other countries. Why wouldn't they consider using them here? Their population numbers in the US are steadily growing - causing them to get bolder and bolder. This could be the first of many.

Skeptic wrote:Also generally jihadist car bombs tend to be of the variety where the jihadists are driving the car into something (a building or marketplace) to kill many others. Or else a car left in a crowded area. It's not really the MO of the Jihad Boys.

And meanwhile the Jihad Boys tend to be much louder when they are responsible for an attack - they want to spread terror and gain infamy. Little to be gained in an attack like the one in Michigan if you dont claim credit for it.

Generally, they do like to make more of a splash by suicide with a video, but I wouldn't put it past them to try something like this. The location and day just seem too coincidental.

by **Kreutz** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 17:50:29

TheGodfather wrote:ATF: Car Bomb Behind Michigan Blast That Injured Father, 2 Kids

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/21/po ... z1YgdYjY8t

Islamic Center Opens Its Doors Near Ground Zero

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/09/22/is ... z1YgdbaT9W

Both happened on the same day. Also, let's not forget that Michigan happens to be the state that harbors a town that is likely being used for muslim terrorist recruitment and training (Dearborn) and it's only one county away from the car bomb.

Both of your links come from Fox News. You just earned:

by **CCFan** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:08:37

Kreutz wrote:
Both of your links come from Fox News. You just earned: [Five-Mullah-Facepalm]

I bet Dan Rather is one of your heros... :whistle:

by **TheGodfather** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:19:02

Kreutz wrote:Both of your links come from Fox News. You just earned:

by **spadesofcolumbia** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:19:51

my bets on Irish Islamic extremist.

by **Jakeiscrazy** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:23:32

Skeptic wrote:
TheGodfather wrote:
Skeptic wrote:That seems to be a bit of a stretch...

How so? How often do car bombs go off in the US? Almost never.

Yet, one goes off on the same day Muslims celebrate the 9/11 killing of "infidels" by opening a Mosque at the site. And the car bomb just happens to be a county away from one of the strongest muslim territories in the US. Doesn't sound like a stretch to me at all. Just sounds like muslims being muslims.

The mob uses car bombs, and last time I checked few of them are of the Islamic faith.

Also generally jihadist car bombs tend to be of the variety where the jihadists are driving the car into something (a building or marketplace) to kill many others. Or else a car left in a crowded area. It's not really the MO of the Jihad Boys.

And meanwhile the Jihad Boys tend to be much louder when they are responsible for an attack - they want to spread terror and gain infamy. Little to be gained in an attack like the one in Michigan if you dont claim credit for it.

+1 seems like a stretch.
Look at the image of where the car bomb exploded, in the middle of the road. Also seems like a weird target choice. To me this I would guess targeted maybe a gang hit or run of the mill murder.

by **spadesofcolumbia** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 18:32:47

these guys are muslim like Westboro church members are christians

by **thekinetic** » Thu, 22 Sep 2011 22:34:29

Skeptic wrote:
TheGodfather wrote:
Skeptic wrote:That seems to be a bit of a stretch...

How so? How often do car bombs go off in the US? Almost never.

Yet, one goes off on the same day Muslims celebrate the 9/11 killing of "infidels" by opening a Mosque at the site. And the car bomb just happens to be a county away from one of the strongest muslim territories in the US. Doesn't sound like a stretch to me at all. Just sounds like muslims being muslims.

The mob uses car bombs, and last time I checked few of them are of the Islamic faith.

Also generally jihadist car bombs tend to be of the variety where the jihadists are driving the car into something (a building or marketplace) to kill many others. Or else a car left in a crowded area. It's not really the MO of the Jihad Boys.

And meanwhile the Jihad Boys tend to be much louder when they are responsible for an attack - they want to spread terror and gain infamy. Little to be gained in an attack like the one in Michigan if you dont claim credit for it.

You right! :hysterical:

by **Kreutz** » Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:44:35

CCFan wrote:
Kreutz wrote:
Both of your links come from Fox News. You just earned: [Five-Mullah-Facepalm]

I bet Dan Rather is one of your heros...

Had to Google him; way before my time.

by **Taggure** » Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:30:28

Kreutz wrote:
CCFan wrote:
Kreutz wrote:
Both of your links come from Fox News. You just earned: [Five-Mullah-Facepalm]

I bet Dan Rather is one of your heros...

Had to Google him; way before my time.

by **TheGodfather** » Fri, 23 Sep 2011 09:10:37

Kreutz wrote:
CCFan wrote:I bet Dan Rather is one of your heros...

Had to Google him; way before my time.

Just wow. Are you 15 or something?

Back to the subject - very few details have been released yet, but it appears a divorce lawyer was the target. I guess that's a pretty reasonable explanation for the car bomb... :whistle:

by **Kreutz** » Fri, 23 Sep 2011 12:45:36

TheGodfather wrote:
Kreutz wrote:
CCFan wrote:I bet Dan Rather is one of your heros...

Had to Google him; way before my time.
Just wow. Are you 15 or something?

28. Like I said, before my time.

Back to the subject - very few details have been released yet, but it appears a divorce lawyer was the target. I guess that's a pretty reasonable explanation for the car bomb...

Thats what happens when you watch Faux "news". Irrational jumps to conclusions formed from only superficially connected links.

Too much time at Becks chalkboard methinks.

1 car bomb+ 1 one county over from 1 city with a predominantly Muslim population=OMFG TERRORIST ATTACK!!!!!

"very few details released", sounds familiar, anyone remember right after the Norway shooting, when no one knew who did it, faux was harping on how Norway still wasnt safe from Muslim terrorists despite its friendship towards Palestinians?

Just jump to conclusions.

by **TheGodfather** » Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:26:12

Kreutz wrote:
TheGodfather wrote:Just wow. Are you 15 or something?

28. Like I said, before my time.

BS. I'm 29 and Dan Rather is not before my time. He didn't leave the network THAT long ago.

Irrational jumps to conclusions formed from only superficially connected links.

It wasn't an irrational jump to conclusions. I hadn't even made a conclusion yet, I described it as being very coincidental and made a guess as to who may have done it. I still stand behind my guess as being a very possible one, concidering the circumstances. Let's look at them:
1) Carbombs are used by terrorists daily
2) DHS just announced several weeks ago that terrorists were seriously trying to use them in the US
3) the bomb went off on the same day muslims were celebrating their attack on the US by opening a mosque on Ground Zero
4) the bomb went off only a county away from one of the largest muslim communities in the US

There's enough coincidental information there for it to have easily been a terrorist bombing.

The incident had just happened with very few details available to anyone - and yet you immediately begin troll posts because Fox happened to provide what information they had on the two separate incidents. Fox never even claimed either story was related or involved terrorism. Typical liberal trolling.

by **mamabearCali** » Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:52:29

Not sure where Kruetz would like us to get our news from--- MSNBC--the official mouthpiece of the Obama administration. CNN--a slight less obvious shill for the democrats.

Leaving our buddy Kruetz dislike of fox new aside.

It could be connected. I don't seen an obvious connection at this time. Dearborne is a bad place to be if you are not a muslim--everyone in power is in the pocket of the local Islamic centers. To simply exercise your God given rights to have a conversation not flattering to Islam you will have to have a lawyer, you will spend at least one night in jail, and you had better have a video recording everything that is going on because the police there will lie on the stand. How do I know this, had some friends arrested there while engaging in a conversation about the likelihood of Jesus' resurrection and while they ultimately prevailed in court they had to go through alot to get there. Bad place, don't go there without at minimum a four person camera crew.

Still, when Islamic terrorists do something like a bombing of some sort they usually shout it to the rooftops. Maybe this is a new breed, but I can't make the connection just yet.

by **TheGodfather** » Fri, 23 Sep 2011 13:56:30

mamabearCali wrote:Still, when Islamic terrorists do something like a bombing of some sort they usually shout it to the rooftops. Maybe this is a new breed, but I can't make the connection just yet.

Not all terrorists are crazy suicidals. The "Beltway Sniper" is a prime example. Just imagine the fear that would spread if terrorists began randomly placing pipebombs under cars all over the US.

by **mamabearCali** » Fri, 23 Sep 2011 15:36:29

You could be right--could be a jihad sort of bombing--just maybe too soon to tell.

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