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Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby Kreutz » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:44:30

http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/293707

An intruder who was bludgeoned to death by a chair-wielding Raleigh Court apartment resident last weekend was identified Thursday as Jose Elias Castro Ramos, 27, of Roanoke.

Ramos entered the apartment in the 2700 block of Brandon Avenue early Saturday illegally, Roanoke police said in a statement. A resident found Ramos in a bedroom and hit him with a chair, fatally injuring him, Commonwealth's Attorney Don Caldwell said earlier.

"No charges have been filed at this time," police spokeswoman Aisha Johnson said Thursday. Police won't identify the resident. Caldwell said the killing appeared justified, based on the preliminary investigation, which continues.


I wonder if a gun would have also been considered justified? Based on earlier reports the burglar was unarmed.
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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby OakRidgeStars » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:53:20

Kreutz wrote:I wonder if a gun would have also been considered justified? Based on earlier reports the burglar was unarmed.


That's OK so was the homeowner. Unless it was an arm(ed) chair :roll:
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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby Palladin » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:57:26

But on TV the chair always smashes to bits! :confused:

This must have been an assault chair...
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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby gunderwood » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 17:11:42

Palladin wrote:But on TV the chair always smashes to bits! :confused:

This must have been an assault chair...

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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby Jakeiscrazy » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:18:48

I need to take a chair defense course.
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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby Jakeiscrazy » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 18:26:11

gunderwood wrote:
Palladin wrote:But on TV the chair always smashes to bits! :confused:

This must have been an assault chair...

:hysterical:

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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby Yarddawg » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:51:06

That's the last straw. When will we ever pass some common sense chair control laws?!?!
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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby TimberWolf » Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:45:33

I'll to consider getting me one of those chairs and a CCP (Concealed Chair Permit). The only question is whether I want the carry-ability of a pine chair or the stopping power of oak. I'll have to visit the Virginia Chair Owner's Forum.
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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby Pumbaa » Sat, 23 Jul 2011 07:06:15

Wood you guys stop with the chair jokes? You should leaf this story alone and branch off to other things! You wooden want to give the chair grabbers any legs with furniture bans!

Assault furniture bans are in our future.. consider most are made fully automatic! Just wait til it gets to the bench!

Just table this discussion will you!?!?!?!

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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby AlanM » Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:12:19

It's not a chair, but how about a self-defense table?
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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby zephyp » Sat, 23 Jul 2011 08:42:08

There will be rivers of blood in every kitchen and in front of every TV...ban all chairs and tables...
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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby OakRidgeStars » Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:32:05

God help us if the terrorists ever discover Furniture Row in Va Beach. I hear you can buy all the chairs you want for cash and with no background checks.

Or something.
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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby seeknulfind » Tue, 26 Jul 2011 15:40:45

Just as I've always said... all chairs should be registered. Probably won't be able to carry my chair on board domestic flights anymore either.


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Re: Intruder Killed with Chair

Postby Kreutz » Tue, 26 Jul 2011 19:36:47

Would a large chair designed for obese people be a "weapon of ass destruction"? :whistle:
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