Virginia Gun Owners Forum - VGOF

The title of this says it all...

Now is Not the Time for Complancency

Poll after poll is showing all three of the VSSA endorsed candidates for statewide office running well ahead of their opponents. Last night the Washington Post released results of their latest poll showing Bob McDonnell ahead of Creigh Deeds by 11 points. Survey USA has McDonnell by 17 with Independents breaking 2-1 for the leader.


The SurveyUSA poll dated Oct. 27 shows McDonnell with a 17-point lead over Democrat Creigh Deeds, 58-41.

Republican Bill Bolling is beating Democrat Jody Wagner by 14 points, 56-42, in the race for lieutenant governor. In the attorney general race, Republican Ken Cuccinelli leads Democrat Steve Shannon by 16 points, 57-41.


But this does not mean we can relax in the final week of the campaign. It is more important than ever that gun owners and sportsmen make sure they get their friends, family and fellow gun club/hunt club members to the polls on election day.

With Saturday being the first day of Muzzleloader Season for deer, if you plan to be in the woods next week, you can cast your vote absentee before election day. Because today is the last day to request an absentee ballot by mail, you should plan to vote in person absentee.

And between now and Tuesday there are opportunities to attend a rally, help out at phone banks and go door to door in targeted neighborhoods. You can find the nearest campaign office here.

Don't let the good polling numbers give a false sense of security. The only poll that counts is the one taken on election day and the only way we will win is if we all show up at the polls and vote our freedom and our sport.

Very good advice indeed. Obama was in town yesterday stumping for Craig Deeds and, in spite of his somewhat lower approval ratings, was still able to bump a couple of percentage points to the Democratic candidate.

We can't let up until McDonnell, Bolling and Cuccinelli are giving their victory speeches on Tuesday night

I haven't missed an election since I came of age - love those "I Voted" stickers!

Good advice, Spence. Let us not forget the tortise and the hare. If we get cocky then we can lose.

That is very true, This election could set the mode the for the next 2 very easily...A strong victory here will send the message that at least our state is fed up with the nonsense in Government at every level. If the NJ election doesn;t get side tracked by the third party voters it would multiply the victories impact to the extreme level..As VSSA has noted we can't get cocky now. The other side will do all they can in these final days to get as many people out to vote as possible, Our support is tantamount to a win now ,next year and in 2012.. We're almost circling the drain in this country and we are the first line of defense to stop it.....

from a voter looking for a clue...and said neutral

What do you believe these candidates will do for us as sportsmen and gun owners? pass a Castle Doctrine? give clear direction of the ambigous gun laws in our commonwealth? not raise taxes?
really solve the transportation issues? reduce the debt? increase our quality of life in Va? job creation? what exactly? ...

I will freely say that I am openly suspect of both parties...but you folks seem to be bought in lock, stock, and, barrell ...and i am curious as to why? as the repub's seem no more clear on anything than the dems...they do happen to be the party that is not currently in control...but that is about it... has Mcdonell come out and say that he is a ardent supporter of 2A and is going to change something in our favor to prove it??? i certaily haven't gleened that...but open to being educated...and looking for specifics...

the statement "A strong victory here will send the message that at least our state is fed up with the nonsense in Government at every level."...isn;t that what VA just did in the last presidential election?
I know I am certainly frustrated...

What is fair to demand from your party in return for your support? As i feel that these political action groups and parties get all wound up and gets everyone fired up for the election and then once they win, its business as usual...

I have done alot of reading,...how are these men really different from each other...r e a l l y ?

i thank you in advance...

BluemontGlock wrote:from a voter looking for a clue...and said neutral

What do you believe these candidates will do for us as sportsmen and gun owners? pass a Castle Doctrine? give clear direction of the ambigous gun laws in our commonwealth? not raise taxes?
really solve the transportation issues? reduce the debt? increase our quality of life in Va? job creation? what exactly? ...

I will freely say that I am openly suspect of both parties...but you folks seem to be bought in lock, stock, and, barrell ...and i am curious as to why? as the repub's seem no more clear on anything than the dems...they do happen to be the party that is not currently in control...but that is about it... has Mcdonell come out and say that he is a ardent supporter of 2A and is going to change something in our favor to prove it??? i certaily haven't gleened that...but open to being educated...and looking for specifics...

the statement "A strong victory here will send the message that at least our state is fed up with the nonsense in Government at every level."...isn;t that what VA just did in the last presidential election?
I know I am certainly frustrated...

What is fair to demand from your party in return for your support? As i feel that these political action groups and parties get all wound up and gets everyone fired up for the election and then once they win, its business as usual... :confused:

I have done alot of reading,...how are these men really different from each other...r e a l l y ?

i thank you in advance...

Howdy,

You asked "why?" I offer an answer, short on specifics and full of generalization:

1) Definition of Gun Owner (aka-Us): Individual who supports the individual right to keep and bear arms and opposes infringement on that freedom from any source, especially the Government.

2) Gun owners support Republicans because Republicans have a reputation for promising to support Us.

3) Democrats have a reputation for being indifferent if not downright hostile to Us.

Fact:

McDonnell and the other statewide candidates have satisfied the NRA, VCDL and VSSA of their sincerity.

Speculation:

Things could have been much different For McDonnell had Deeds not declared his intention to close the so-called "Gun Show Loophole." Deeds' record re: gun rights is arguably better than McDonnell's. In the Lt. Gov and Attorney General races, the democratic candidates have records of indifference and hostility to Us, while the republicans have distinguished themselves as pro-gun.

I share your suspicion and frustration. While I don't expect the Republicans to do much good for Us, I fear the the dems will work to undermine our freedoms. In addition, a Democrat victory in Virginia would embolden the Obama administration and their supporters into accelerating their agenda, which is bad for Us.

Conclusion:

You should vote Republican because, as a Gun owner, you have no place else to go.

Post Script:

Does my answer suck? It does, nevertheless it accurately represents the status quo. If you want to change things, consider joining a party -Democrat or Republican- and work from within the system. We need to have more of Us in position to select candidates who run for elected office.

Regards,

George

I'm planning on voting tomorrow. Remember folks, vote early and vote often. Hey that's ACORN's theory..

With the immediate threat of socialism (or worse) to our country IMHO our final line of defense here is to get the leftist democrats out of office and replace them with blue dogs, centrist, or preferably conservtives. Notice that not all of VCDL and NRA picks are republicans. There are a few dems sprinkled here and there. Of primary importance for us is to protect our gun rights. We have a real mess here and its down to damage control. Get the socialists out and clean up the mess afterwards. We may trade one evil for another but its a matter of what can we deal with - questionable conservatives or outright socialists and in some cases borderline communists?

George (and DK)
well replied, and you kind of hit center mass for me...as you realized i was not trying to create disagreement, more to vent some frustration and gain some clarity by getting it out in writing, which for me it a big part of the forum,...it is an interesting time...and i am trying to understand some of the considerations that other are gauging, so if that is a sux answer, please keep them coming...

Bobalui you are obviously not alone in your frustration. I am personally caught in a neat trap along with many others. The very government I work for now threatens the oath they had me swear before assuming my position. I take that oath very seriously, having lived under it for most of my adult life, and my situation lends new meaning to the term "frustrated." Aside from that I am also feeling very vulnerable and helpless to do anything and rightly so if I stand alone. The only way we are going to preserve our gun rights is to stand as a group together against any further progression against any of our rights and freedoms. We must assume now that each passing day brings us nearer to a point of no return. The line in the sand must be drawn now for we cannot afford to tarry another day. If we do the winds of change will no doubt erase it from our grasp. These so called elected leaders must hear our voice when we all stand up together and say NO MORE - NOT ON OUR WATCH. We must take back any territory we can now before its too late. This is a battle and there will be collateral damage. Its up to us to decide and dictate the direction of where the SHTF.

Dk,
Thank you for your service to our country...

me thinks that almost every great change for mankind was fathered by frustration and mothered by need for change...

the statement "feeling very vulnerable and helpless to do anything"
sums it up nicely...Thank you for the empathy...and right you are...
Regards!

BluemontGlock wrote:Dk,
me thinks that almost every great change for mankind was fathered by frustration and mothered by need for change...

Yup, and I would like to think that is change by the people and for the people. Not some yahoo socialist (insert your own string of expletives here) jerk.