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It seems that contacting our 2 deliquent Senators has rubbed a few people a aw feeling that they are not being listened to.. We still need to bombard them with our emails, letters , phone calls , or whatever. Our rights and well being as a nation require that we speak up at all instances and opportunities.. THe Senate plans to vote on the Revised Disclose Act ( Chuckie Scumers little attempt to beat the 1st Amendment for gun groups) and we all need to contact the 2 boners and let em know we don't support it. As always GOA has done the hard part and written the letter, All you gotta do is sign on to the page and fill out the forms.

Senate Scheduled to Vote on Free Speech Stranglehold Bill
-- DISCLOSE Act Vote Set For Tuesday

Gun Owners of America E-Mail Alert
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151
Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408
http://www.gunowners.org




Monday, July 26, 2010

Just as gun owners are engaged in the intense battle over anti-gun Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan, Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) introduced a new version of a bill that will gut the First Amendment rights of groups like GOA.

The so-called DISCLOSE Act, which passed the House last month, puts severe and unconstitutional limits on our ability to hold individual congressmen accountable in the weeks leading up to an election.

Chuck Schumer, who would like to do away with the Second Amendment, is now also trampling all over the First Amendment as a way to protect himself and his anti-gun colleagues from voters like you.

You may recall that the DISCLOSE Act passed the House only after a controversial carve-out was added to exempt the NRA from the bill's provisions. Unfortunately, the NRA -- which had originally opposed the bill because it was unconstitutional -- withdrew its opposition after the carve-out was inserted.

The exemption was maintained in the Schumer version of the bill.

Ironically, while the bill is called the DISCLOSE Act, Schumer and Majority Leader Harry Reid are using the rules of the Senate to bypass any committee hearings -- where the merits of the bill could be debated and the American people could see just how the Constitution is being undermined.

The bill will most likely come to the floor on Tuesday afternoon, where it will take 60 votes to "close off debate" on the measure.

So it is imperative that Second Amendment supporters contact their two Senators right away and urge them to oppose the DISCLOSE Act.

Some Senators may complain that this is not a Second Amendment issue. To the contrary, if GOA is hindered in communicating to the public about members of Congress and legislation they may be voting on, that undermining of the First Amendment will certainly have an effect on the Second Amendment.

The type of speech GOA is involved in -- political speech -- is first and foremost what the framers of the Bill of Rights had in mind when they wrote that "Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech."

Please urge your Senators to protect ALL of your constitutional liberties.

ACTION: Please contact your Senators and urge them to oppose the new version of the Disclose Act. You can use the Gun Owners Legislative Action Center at http://gunowners.org/activism.htm to send your Senators the pre-written e-mail message below.

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

I stand with Gun Owners of America in opposing Senator Schumer's new version of so-called DISCLOSE Act.

It is outrageous that the House of Representatives passed this legislation with a deal to exempt certain large organizations from its terms. This smacks of the money-for-votes fiasco which helped grease the skids for passage of ObamaCare and which has already lowered Congress' reputation to unprecedented depths.

I was glad to see that Senator Mitch McConnell blasted this deal, which was especially aimed at carving out special exemptions for the NRA leadership in exchange for their promise to sit on their hands and not oppose the DISCLOSE Act. "If there is one thing Americans loathe about Washington, it's the backroom dealing to win the vote of organizations with power and influence at the expense of everyone else," McConnell said.

"Just as it wasn't the Democrats' money to offer in the health care debate, free speech isn't theirs to ration out to those willing to play ball -- it's a right guaranteed."

Another irony with the whole process surrounding this legislation is that while the bill is called the DISCLOSE Act, Sen. Schumer and Majority Leader Harry Reid are bypassing the committee process -- where the merits of the bill could be debated and the American people could see just how the Constitution is being undermined.

Gun Owners of America represents hundreds of thousands of Second Amendment supporters. Any bill that hampers the right of groups like this to communicate with the public is also an attack on my rights.

Please vote NO on Sen. Schumer's DISCLOSE Act.

Sincerely

For anyone who might give a crap and that looks like few , about their first amendment rights ,this is where the bill currently stands , It is very possible that Chuckie Schumer can't get the votes needed to break the filibuster and this unconstitutional POS will go down in flames as it should.


Campaign bill still a few votes shy
Tags:Barack Obama,Supreme Court,Chuck Schumer,Olympia Snowe,Financial Reform,DISCLOSE Act ListenPrintCommentEmail Subscribe.By MEREDITH SHINER | 7/26/10 4:48 PM EDT
Updated: 7/27/10 8:46 AM EDTText Size-+reset.Digg/Buzz It UpDigg this Story!Buzz it up!Add to LinkedIn.POLITICO 44Despite a last-minute assist Monday from President Barack Obama, Senate Democrats are likely to fall short of the votes needed to break a filibuster of the campaign finance reform bill set for a key vote Tuesday.


The DISCLOSE Act — developed in response to a Supreme Court ruling revoking many of the nation’s campaign finance laws — would force corporations to disclose their contributions to federal campaigns. The bill already has cleared the House, but even with support from the White House, and changes made late last week by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) aimed at making the bill more appealing to moderates, the path to the 60 votes needed in the Senate is just as bleak as it was weeks ago.


Schumer, the Senate’s No. 3 Democrat, would not say definitively Monday whether leadership had corralled every Democratic vote — Ben Nelson of Nebraska, for example, broke with his party in 2002 to vote against the McCain-Feingold campaign reform bill. His office did not respond to requests Monday about how the senator, who also has voted against his party on recent unemployment benefit packages, intends to vote Tuesday.


Sen. Susan Collins of Maine may have delivered a fatal blow to the bill Monday, announcing that she would not support cloture, which would break a filibuster.


“The bill would provide a clear and unfair advantage to unions while either shutting other organizations out of the election process or subjecting them to onerous reporting requirements that would not apply to unions,” said Collins spokesman Kevin Kelley. “Sen. Collins believes that it is ironic that a bill aimed at curtailing special interests in the election process provides so many carve-outs and exemptions that favor some grass-roots organizations over others. This, too, is simply unfair.”


With her announcement Monday, Collins joins GOP moderates like Scott Brown of Massachusetts, who opposed the bill weeks ago, and Olympia Snowe of Maine, who told POLITICO, when it appeared Democrats would move on the bill, that she didn’t think it was likely to pass before the August recess.


Schumer, however, still expressed a cautious optimism earlier Monday, but it came off more as a move to dampen negative publicity than as an accurate snapshot of a whip count.


“We’re working very hard on getting a Republican. You never know until you call a vote,” Schumer said, noting that members might think twice about voting no on a bill that will have serious implications for the intersection of corporations and American politics when a final roll is called.


“The bill we’re voting on [Tuesday] is one of the most important for the future of our democracy, not just for the next six months but for the next six decades,” Schumer said.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0710/40233.html#ixzz0ut6APWLX

THe bill stalled today as the Democraps could not muster the 6ovotes to break the filibuster by the Republicans ,.. Our two cowards voted in favor of saving themselves and screwing the people of their first amendment rights. THis bill is nothing more than the Democrats wanting to lim it who speaks and who doesn;t ,,FYI along with NRA and big unions the AARP was also granted an abstension on it,,, Reid( D NV) will attempt to bring this POS back some time and we all need to be there to fight it.

VBshooter wrote:For anyone who might give a crap and that looks like few , about their first amendment rights ,

WachutalkinbaoutWillis? I really hope that wasn't adressed to the folks on this forum.

KaosDad wrote: I really hope that wasn't adressed to the folks on this forum.

I'm pretty sure it wasn't directed at people on here. At least, I didn't take it that way.

It wasn;t directly ,,, It was pretty much me speaking out in general to anyone that didn;t think the Disclose Act was an important bill to defeat. Hell, even sadder Fox down played it for other stories..Far too many people don;t see what this bill means and are more concerned with the nonsense of the day,, I will admit I would like to see more participation in politics on this board but it will either happen or it won't..There have been folks that no longer post here that I think may have stayed had the conversations been a bit more intense. Now we get to wait and see when the Little creep from Nevada tries to ram it through again with Chuckie Schumer playing cheerleader on the side lines...This is a bill well within our interests to defeat at all costs and remember who betrayed us like Webb and Warner.

OK, cool. Just checkin'. For the record e-mails wen to Webb & Warner and to Wolf just in case it made it to the Senate.

And thanks for the updates - I saw nothing about it in WaPo then forgot to follow up on-line.

No problem , I get revved up big time with all the goings on in the Guvment and Gun stuff that keeping abreast of it is almost maniacal for me.. Latest one form the fellers that are about to kill a nation is the SEC (security exchange commission ) no longer has to give records to the public with a FOI (Freedom of Information ) request, Nothing like a transparent administration. Just one more nail in the nations coffin that we'll need to pull out when the time comes,,,

There are
too many bills
too many politicians
too much government.
How do I vote against all those?
Every time I send something to those senators, I just become overwhelmed with an anxious desire to vote them out of office. I sent them both letters and they send garbage back (sometimes days later I received an automated response). I wrote twice against Kagan and received a letter saying "I support Kagan, but I will consider your opinion." Right.... There was no mention of voters supporting her just "I" or i.e. himself. Sorry, they frustrate me.

You are like the rest of us and do deserve better treatment than you get from those 2 jackasses. They are literally joined to Obama and the Democratic Congress at the brain. It;s become painfully aware that they ,,like other Democraps are not going to listen, don;t care what we have to say, and are going to screw us up,down,left and right until we can get rid of them..THe hard thing for us is keeping focused in that one goal... Getting rid of them and not letting their actions discourage us.. Keeping te pressure on is needeed because once we stop it ,,they Win! We cannot let that happen, THese are the times that will try our convictions and failure to react to it is not an option..