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Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby Taggure » Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:19:42

Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC
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By MEG KINNARD
ASHEVILLE, N.C. - An armed man spotted at a North Carolina airport parking lot just after Air Force One departed and who said he wanted to see the president was being held at the request of federal authorities, a judge said Monday.

Authorities arrested Joseph Sean McVey, 23, of Coshocton, Ohio, on Sunday afternoon at the Asheville Regional Airport and charged him with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.

McVey, wearing a white jail jumpsuit, appeared calm and spoke in a steady voice via a video conference Monday morning while district Judge Patricia Young said federal authorities wanted him kept in custody even if he posts bail.

McVey was being held under a $100,000 secured bond for the misdemeanor charge and faces up to 120 days in jail if convicted, the judge said. She told him an attorney had agreed to represent him.

"I'd like to take advantage of the gentleman that you were notifying me about," he responded.

Young set his next court date for June 10.

McVey told an officer in the airport parking lot he wanted to see the president. He had a car equipped with police gear, including a siren and flashing lights, though he did not work in law enforcement, authorities said.

Security was heightened at the airport Sunday because President Barack Obama was leaving after spending the weekend vacationing in Asheville.

At about 2 p.m., airport police saw McVey get out of a maroon car with Ohio plates and that he had a sidearm, airport police Capt. Kevan Smith said. Both airport police and the Secret Service questioned him and he was taken into custody. The suspect was nowhere near the president's plane, which had just departed, and was in a rental car return lot that is open to the public, Smith said.

His car was equipped with clear LED law enforcement-style strobe lights in the front and rear dash, Smith said. The car also had a mounted digital camera in the front window, four large antennas on the trunk lid, and under the steering wheel was a working siren box.

When McVey got out of the car, he was listening to a handheld scanner and radio that had a remote earpiece, Smith said. Police said he was monitoring local agencies and had formulas for rifle scopes on a note in his cup holder.

Authorities did not say if McVey had a rifle or scope with him.

A rifle scope formula is a set of calculations that helps a shooter adjust for distance from a target. The formulas, which estimate how much a bullet drops after it is fired, are generally in the information packet that comes with a scope purchased for hunting or recreation, said Greg A. Danas, a firearms expert based in Massachusetts.

McVey gave authorities an Ohio driver's license, but a computer check failed to show the number was valid, police said. His hometown of Coshocton is about halfway between Columbus and Pittsburgh.

When Officer Kaleb Rice asked him what he was doing, McVey told him he heard the president was in town and wanted to see him.

Rice removed the firearm and took McVey into custody.

The investigation into what McVey was doing with a gun, with formulas for rifle scopes and why his car was equipped with police gear was continuing, Smith said. The Secret Service had no comment Monday on the case.

In Ohio, a man answering the door Monday at McVey's home address said he had no comment.

Randy Fisher, president of the Coshocton County Amateur Radio Association, said McVey was a ham radio enthusiast who had come several times to the group's monthly meetings over the last year or two. Fisher said he was shocked to hear of the arrest and said he last talked with McVey about a week ago via radio and always found him friendly and interesting to talk to.

"I was impressed that he was a public-service-minded type of individual. He really enjoyed using his ham radio for emergency services and that sort of thing," Fisher said.

For two years, McVey has been a member of a volunteer organization in his home area that assists the sheriff's department with traffic control at emergency scenes, said Tim Wise, president of Coshocton County REACT, or Radio Emergency Association Citizen Team.

Wise said he was inclined to believe McVey's arrest resulted from a misunderstanding.

"Everything they found on him, with the exception of a gun, he basically had all that when he was in Coshocton," Wise said Monday. "He just basically liked to monitor police frequencies and listen to what's going on."

That's common for REACT members, though members of the organization are not authorized to have police sirens and lights or break the speed limit on the way to emergencies, Wise said.

McVey had to be warned about his speed while responding to REACT calls, Wise said.

"He's kind of a go-getter, and I know we had to kind of clip his wings a couple times and tell him he needed to watch what he was doing out there and slow down a little bit," Wise said.

McVey had a webcam in his car because he liked to chase severe storms. Wise said he was unaware McVey had a gun, but said with certainty he did not believe McVey would ever want to harm the president.

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Associated Press writers Doug Whiteman in Columbus, Ohio, and Andrew Welsh-Huggins in Coshocton, Ohio, contributed to this report.

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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby Taggure » Mon, 26 Apr 2010 14:38:26

Now what is wrong with this story?

Is it that he is being held even if he pays the bond?
district Judge Patricia Young said federal authorities wanted him kept in custody even if he posts bail.

The Misdrmeanor charge
charged him with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.

McVey was being held under a $100,000 secured bond for the misdemeanor charge and faces up to 120 days in jail if convicted,


When McVey got out of the car, he was listening to a handheld scanner and radio that had a remote earpiece, Smith said. Police said he was monitoring local agencies and had formulas for rifle scopes on a note in his cup holder.

Authorities did not say if McVey had a rifle or scope with him.


This will be a fun one to watch and see what happens

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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby OakRidgeStars » Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:33:03

Watch closely as the MSM tries to tie him to militias, Tea Parties or the GOP.

If that fails, the story will be relegated to the back page with yard sales and the horoscope :roll:
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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby VBshooter » Mon, 26 Apr 2010 15:40:41

Like Obama needed another vacation.. SOB never stays in DC
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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby Taggure » Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:07:06

well we will see if this gets attention on the news tonight
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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby Taggure » Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:07:54

VBshooter wrote:Like Obama needed another vacation.. SOB never stays in DC


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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby Taggure » Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:09:46

How come this does not show up on the RSS Feed for the forum?
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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby Vahunter » Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:45:22

VBshooter wrote:Like Obama needed another vacation.. SOB never stays in DC


He was'nt on vacation he just came to pick up a bible from Billy Graham. :roll: :hysterical: Now we know that's a lie, he reads the kuran. :whistle:


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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby wally626 » Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:12:52

I guess the question is it legal to open carry in a airport parking lot in NC. The only thing I could see in the NC law summary on the NRA site was the carrying of guns during parades, public demonstrations and the like, and that appears to address concealed carry not open carry. I assume he was arrested due to that provision, but it seems kinda weak.


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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby zephyp » Tue, 27 Apr 2010 06:40:35

Taggure wrote:How come this does not show up on the RSS Feed for the forum?


This topic (non gun related politics) has been excluded from the RSS feed...someone who shall remain nameless -- unless he wants to speak up -- mentioned that all he saw in the RSS feed was political rants about obama and very little about gun topics... :hysterical:

Regarding the man arrested, I'm not sure he did anything against the law....was he on airport property with a gun? Was that the basis for the arrest or was it another case of "we better snatch this person before they commit a crime?"

EDIT: My mistake -- just noticed this is not in the non gun politic section. Not sure why its not in the RSS feed...should be...
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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby OakRidgeStars » Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:00:05

zephyp wrote:
Taggure wrote:How come this does not show up on the RSS Feed for the forum?


This topic (non gun related politics) has been excluded from the RSS feed...someone who shall remain nameless -- unless he wants to speak up -- mentioned that all he saw in the RSS feed was political rants about obama and very little about gun topics... :hysterical:



Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah :blink: :rofl:

(nope... not in the RSS feed either) :roll:
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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby zephyp » Tue, 27 Apr 2010 07:18:31

OakRidgeStars wrote:
zephyp wrote:
Taggure wrote:How come this does not show up on the RSS Feed for the forum?


This topic (non gun related politics) has been excluded from the RSS feed...someone who shall remain nameless -- unless he wants to speak up -- mentioned that all he saw in the RSS feed was political rants about obama and very little about gun topics... :hysterical:



Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah :blink: :rofl:

(nope... not in the RSS feed either) :roll:


:hysterical: :hysterical:

Did Rick take this one out too.... :roll:
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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby Taggure » Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:35:52

The Misdrmeanor charge
charged him with going armed in terror of the public, a misdemeanor.
McVey was being held under a $100,000 secured bond for the misdemeanor charge and faces up to 120 days in jail if convicted,


Well What I find really bad is that first it was that the Feds wanted the district judge to keep him in custody even if he makes his secured bond and the charge is a Misdmeanor with a Max of a 120 day penalty, and his apperance is not until June so it would be time served before he finished the trial.
There is something fishy about this it just does not smell right to me. and you noticed that there was no mention on the news last night about it that I saw did anyone else see anything.

This is what I found out about the charge Talk about infringement on the 2nd Ammendment

By common law in North Carolina, it is unlawful for a person to arm himself with any unusual and dangerous weapon, for the purpose of terrifying others, and go about on public highways in a manner to cause terror to others. The N.C. Supreme Court has said that any gun is an unusual and dangerous weapon for purposes of this offense. Therefore persons are cautioned as to the areas they frequent with firearms.

So I was looking on another (NC) forum (Here is the link http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=87067 )about this and I found someone who has researched it and this what they said

here I found some more info for you guys from the NC rifle association.

Q: I don't want to get a Concealed Handgun Permit; I just want to carry a gun openly in a holster. Is this legal?

A: In North Carolina there is no State law specifically prohibiting the open carry of firearms. Under the theory that if it isn't specifically prohibited it's not illegal, open carry is possible. There are some glaring exceptions to this. They are:

Private property owners and businesses can post "no guns."
Firearms are strictly prohibited on state-owned property, except rest areas and state lands where hunting is permitted.
Local governments can (and do) enact prohibitions against "display of firearms" in cities and/or specific areas within cities or counties, which means they can't be visible. Under this statute there is absolutely no requirement for the city or county to post notice of the display ban.
Local governments can (and do) enact firearms bans on local government property and in parks and recreational areas.
Any federally-owned property or federally-regulated property like banks and Post Offices is of course a prohibited area.
Much of the Outer Banks is "National Seashore," and firearms are prohibited in those areas.
So in theory that leaves everywhere else in the state - except for one more thing. There is a common-law offense in NC called "going armed to the terror of the people." Basically what this means is that if someone sees you carrying a firearm and calls the police to report "person with a gun," you can be charged with this offense. It's not often used in rural areas, but has been used in populated areas. If you are an out-of-state visitor who is not here lawfully hunting or engaged in some overt firearms-related event such as a competition, it will be hard to talk your way out of it.

So is open carry legal in NC? In theory, yes. In practice, maybe. It seems to us like a very good way to get arrested.


here is the link to the full page.

http://www.ncrpa.org/ccwfaq.htm


Wow I would have never thought that NC would be so Anti-Gun
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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby Vahunter » Tue, 27 Apr 2010 19:49:24

NC antigun ? Yep and you can thank the morons in the Triangle ( Raleigh, Durham. Chapel Hill) and let's not forget Wake Forest. I work in Carolina and unless I'm working in gun friendly areas I don't carry. Plus guns are prohibited in my company truck :whistle: . If anyone wants a bad experience with cops just go to Wake Forest.


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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby zephyp » Wed, 28 Apr 2010 05:14:08

I am very careful driving through NC on the way to Alabama...hope I never get stopped...I've not heard good things about gun toters who encounter LE there...
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Re: Armed man held after arrest as Obama leaves NC

Postby CowboyT » Wed, 05 May 2010 19:58:20

Vahunter wrote:
VBshooter wrote:Like Obama needed another vacation.. SOB never stays in DC


He was'nt on vacation he just came to pick up a bible from Billy Graham. :roll: :hysterical: Now we know that's a lie, he reads the kuran. :whistle:


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