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Under the heading of "Guns Save Lives"

Postby AlanM » Sat, 14 Sep 2019 08:36:07

I JUST ran across a link to this site.

I provides a LARGE amount of ammunition to fire at people that say that civilians don't stop or prevent mass shootings.

List of Mass Shootings Stopped by Armed Civilians

The “Catch 22”

When dealing with a claim of stopping a mass shooting, there’s a “Catch 22” problem. If someone shoots a potential mass shooter before they begin, technically a mass shooting never took place and one can’t definitively claim it was prevented. On the other hand, if a mass shooting is underway and then stopped by an armed civilian, technically the mass shooting wasn’t prevented either, as it already happened. This “Catch 22” makes it technically impossible to stop a mass shooting. Thus, this meme could be considered correct under this twisted logic, but would be grossly and maliciously misleading and not what any fair person would consider to be true.

Another factor is to consider what is meant by “armed civilian”. One could argue that an off-duty police officer or military personnel carrying a weapon isn’t a civilian, but this seems disingenuous.


Here's another link to even more, more recent, incidents:
https://crimeresearch.org/2019/05/uber-driver-in-chicago-stops-mass-public-shooting/
AlanM
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Re: Under the heading of "Guns Save Lives"

Postby MarcSpaz » Sat, 14 Sep 2019 17:06:18

Never saw that meme before. Its amazing to me how willfully ignorant people choose to be.


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Re: Under the heading of "Guns Save Lives"

Postby WRW » Sat, 14 Sep 2019 18:49:04

Ummm...if you stop a mass shooting in progress then you have stopped a mass shooting. You may not have prevented it.

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