Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

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Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby allingeneral » Sun, 01 Apr 2018 10:15:50

Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement


Marchers, Politicians, Media,
No Longer Playing Pretend

But: Infringement Is Illegal

by Alan Korwin



Calls to outlaw guns, gun possession, accessories and similar wild-eyed notions now percolating through a portion of our youth and culture are... illegal.

So called “news” media, involved in whipping up the public and unsuspecting youngsters into a frenzy to ban gun types, gun parts, all guns, and places where people can have guns for all legal purposes -- like defense against murderers -- are an affront to our society and our Constitution. When did teachers lose their right to keep and bear arms exactly? The guarantees of The U.S. Bill of Rights can just be... lost?

People are saying the horrific events of the recent past could never have happened if our rights weren’t somehow squelched in the first place.

Unless you decide to give up on the rule of law, and simply enact anything by mob rule, guns can’t simply be banned, as television is campaigning for. People could begin a new country based on utopian socialist rule with no leadership, no charter, and the will of the people simply expressed day-to-day by vote, that’s conceivable. But America cannot legitimately ban guns already in the public’s hands by passing laws, to appease loud children.

We get that the kids are scared, and should be, they’ve been let down. That doesn’t erase the rule of law.

If stopping crazed, psychotic mass murderers who take it on themselves to spree murder their classmates is the goal, that’s a good goal.

Loud youngsters who think disarming the public will somehow accomplish that goal are not mature enough to understand that first, -- it won’t work, and second, the adults egging them on in the media and politics are manipulative SOBs worse than their worst parents.

Those adults are using what amounts to a national tantrum to accomplish the adults’ goal -- not the children’s goal. The so-called “news” media has disguised or totally hidden this revealing truth. Journalists have become virtually as much an enemy of the nation’s health as the murderers themselves. That’s a hard thing to say, as a journalist myself.

Here’s a secret. Everyone wants to stop sociopathic students from murdering their classmates at school. It shouldn’t be a secret. The hated NRA wants to stop that. Do you really think they’re devils who want their own kids at that kind of risk? If you do, you’ve been sold a bill of goods. Remember the secret -- Everyone wants to stop sociopathic students from murdering their classmates at school.

Here’s the bottom line. Banning a firearm a person already owns is infringement, simply by definition. Doing that is banned in America, it’s why we’re the linchpin of freedom on the planet. It’s why oppressed masses flock here, and always have, though schools no longer teach this. They used to, when America was at its peak.

Attempting to take such a firearm away -- government confiscation of the public’s guns is aggravated infringement, felony-level criminal activity. It is exactly what government cannot legitimately do. It’s where peaceful rule of law ends and tyranny begins: gun-taking. Gun-taking kindles revolts, around the world, and if it goes too far, it could happen here. Disarming the innocent doesn’t set well with the innocent. The reverse is true too -- you can’t arm slaves and expect them to remain slaves.

State by state, we are going to see an effort to put aggravated infringement into statute so offending officials can be charged and imprisoned if they attempt to infringe on this fundamental constitutional right. Banning guns is on the same par as banning gays, blacks, speech, Bibles -- you just can’t do that here.

It doesn’t matter how many votes you can manipulate or cajole with phony logic. “Majority rules, minority protected,” you remember that, right? It means you can’t strip the Bill of Rights with a legislative vote.

People who do so or attempt to do so need to be subject to defined penalties. Like any other civil and human rights violation. We actually have 18 USC §241, and 18 USC §242 for this, they just need some backup, and enforcement (q.v., denial of constitutional or statutory rights is a crime). Read those short, crystalline statutes.

The noise level is rising to a dangerous pitch. Attempting to disarm the public is what has, throughout history, led to either revolution or genocide. Americans want neither. The loud children want neither either, they just don’t know it. They know not what they do, and their handlers are keeping them quietly in the dark.

The Andersons and Wolves are incomprehensibly keeping them ignorant, and maybe they are themselves. I’m reluctant to join my colleagues who see it for an evil agenda, and the markings could easily be read that way. At the least the mass media culprits should lose their licenses to broadcast. Oh, that’s right—they are unlicensed operators.

Banning guns already in the public’s hands is infringement. Attempting to take an infringed item is aggravated infringement. Attempting to take an infringed item is where chilling phrases like, “Bullets first!” and “From my cold dead fingers!” arise. This country does not want to go there. Someone tell the kids.

http://www.gunlaws.com/AmericanProtecti ... ration.htm
I have the Infringement Bill model language here somewhere, I’ll get that posted, check back with me.
http://www.gunlaws.com/ModelLegislation.htm

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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby SHMIV » Sun, 01 Apr 2018 11:14:05

It's always been a Gun Ban Movement. We've always known that they'd stop pretending, eventually.

I'm hoping that they've mis-read the political winds, and outed themselves too soon, and too hard.

But... I don't know...

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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby MarcSpaz » Sun, 01 Apr 2018 15:28:45

Good read.

Like H, I have always believed that the agenda has been a complete ban since the beginning. The the Antifederalists didn't want to ratify the Constitution unless the Right of the People to defend themselves against a tyrannical government was codified in the Constitution. The Federalists finally gave in, which lead to the birth of the Bill of Rights.

It was only a matter of time before the Left stopped hiding behind "common sense restrictions" and went for the full-out ban.


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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby kelu » Sun, 01 Apr 2018 16:02:58

The elites feel that they are losing, and try to fight tooth and nail, and throwing everything in the battle.
The globalist push back is on a big momentum.
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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby Snakester » Sun, 01 Apr 2018 20:14:15

Time once again for the "Minuteman ". :machinegun:


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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby kelu » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 07:57:25

All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party - Mao Tse Tung


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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby kelu » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 09:42:34

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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby MarcSpaz » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 10:11:16

It's hard to imagine that come out of the 9th Circus Court. However... very true.

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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby WRW » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 11:04:44

It was a portion of one dissent out of many dissents. The Court had ruled that 2A is a collective right, not an individual right. Heller v DC later upheld the individual right.

I didn't know that, but did find it and found it to be very interesting after kelu posted it.

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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby kelu » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 11:22:38

How the hell can a be collective right, without being also individual?
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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby WRW » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 11:33:55

kelu wrote:How the hell can a be collective right, without being also individual?


Gun ownership only for formally recognized militia but not for individuals, even individuals of that militia.

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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby MarcSpaz » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:27:26

WRW wrote:
kelu wrote:How the hell can a be collective right, without being also individual?


Gun ownership only for formally recognized militia but not for individuals, even individuals of that militia.

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That's why between 1930 and 1940, many states in the US passed laws saying that every citizen or person who intends to become a citizen, between 16 and 55 are members of the militia.


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Re: Gloves Are Off—It’s a Gun-Ban Movement

Postby WRW » Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:09:09

http://www.keepandbeararms.com/silveira/enbanc.asp

I couldn't get the full text so I went looking for it. It's a good two minute read. The other dissenting opinions are good also.

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