Anti-gun vote in House today

Anti-gun vote in House today

Postby Taggure » Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:49:05

Got this in from the GOA today and a call to action is needed here. I will not hold my breath on my representives in the House but maybe yours will listen.
Anti-gun vote in House today


Dear Vern,

Will your Congressman vote to let President Barack Obama ban wooden stocks and to allow a massive crack-down on firearms manufacturing?

I hope not, but that's what the Republican-controlled House may be on the verge of doing in a vote that could come later today.

Let me explain.

Last week, I told you about how Chuck Schumer tried to pull a Thanksgiving trick on gun owners.

Schumer was caught red-handed trying to sneak a massive gun ban expansion through the U.S. Senate.

Schumer’s plan calls for extending the so-called “undetectable” gun ban of 1988.

Additionally, he wants to expand it to crack-down on 3D-printing and outlaw manufacturing certain types of receivers, gun moldings, and plastic magazines.

Fortunately, Schumer encountered a set-back.

It sent the gun-grabbers scrambling to find a new strategy to get this anti-gun legislation passed before a crucial December 9th deadline.

The bad news: Insiders are now telling me they’ve found one.

Republican House Speaker John Boehner is prepared to bring it up for a vote in the House on Monday afternoon.

This is dangerous.

If Boehner allows it to come up for a vote and pass, it would give Chuck Schumer, Harry Reid, and the rest of the anti-gunners in the Senate the vehicle they need to tack on all of the expanded gun control they’re hoping for.

But it gets worse.

If the so-called “undetectable” gun ban is expanded at all, experts warn that the Obama administration is prepared to use it as an excuse to outlaw as many firearm components as possible -- even wooden stocks.

It’s like a ticking time bomb.

With twenty-five gun control Executive Actions taken so far, President Obama and his disgraced Attorney General Eric Holder are holding their breath.

They’re hoping House Republicans will sign-off on renewing the so-called “undetectable” gun ban.

If they do, then Holder and Obama will be free to unleash another tidal wave of Executive Actions and regulations to crack down on as many firearms and components as possible.

I’m afraid it could spell disaster for gun owners.

The good news is, you can help shed light on this latest anti-gun scheme.

Please do not wait until it’s too late.

Please contact your Congressman immediately and urge him or her to oppose extending the so-called “undetectable” gun ban.

*** The congressional switchboard can be reached at (202) 224-3121. Ask to be connected to your Congressman.

When you speak to them, let them know that a vote to reauthorize the so-called “undetectable” gun ban is a vote for more gun control and less freedom.

Urge them to reject Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer’s anti-gun agenda by refusing to allow the so-called “undetectable” gun ban to come up for any vote.

Thank you for taking action right away.

For Freedom,


Dudley Brown
Executive Vice President

P.S. House Republicans may be on the verge of signing-off on a key component of Barack Obama’s anti-gun agenda.

Please contact your Congressman immediately and urge him or her to oppose extending the so-called “undetectable” gun ban.

*** The congressional switchboard can be reached at (202) 224-3121. Ask to be connected to your Congressman.

Urge them to reject Barack Obama and Chuck Schumer’s anti-gun agenda by refusing to allow the so-called “undetectable” gun ban to come up for any vote.
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Re: Anti-gun vote in House today

Postby JustinCase » Mon, 02 Dec 2013 17:38:13

Sigh... I threw up a little. Bad ties rising, it sounds like.

Like PacMan eating dots, were on the fast track from being citizens to being subjects.

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Re: Anti-gun vote in House today

Postby MNMGoneShooting » Mon, 02 Dec 2013 18:25:57

I wonder what the loopholes are in the bill that would allow them to even ban "wooden stocks"? I'm not saying I support the bill, but it seems far fetched without knowing the guts of the legislation.
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Re: Anti-gun vote in House today

Postby DW44VH » Mon, 02 Dec 2013 20:55:56

Isn't it interesting how the socialists have this great fear of anyone having freedoms of any kind.
They can do whatever they want, bur the rest of us are supposed to Kao Tao.
If we do not subscribe to their philosophy, we are the oddballs, terrorist's, racists, etc..

What is wrong with this picture???
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Re: Anti-gun vote in House today

Postby FiremanBob » Tue, 03 Dec 2013 07:57:00

It was gun control that was the proximate cause of the Battle of Lexington and Concord. Schumer and Boehner don't know what kind of fire they are playing with. I hope they don't push it far enough to find out.
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Re: Anti-gun vote in House today

Postby dorminWS » Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:00:21

DW44VH wrote:Isn't it interesting how the socialists have this great fear of anyone having freedoms of any kind.
They can do whatever they want, bur the rest of us are supposed to Kao Tao.
If we do not subscribe to their philosophy, we are the oddballs, terrorist's, racists, etc..

What is wrong with this picture???

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Not surprising at all. When you're in the business of robbing Peter to pay Paul, it is a good idea to make sure Peter is defenseless.

Of course, I'm reminded of what my Pappy used to say about robbing Peter to pay Paul: You always wind up with a sore Peter. :machinegun:
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Re: Anti-gun vote in House today

Postby Taggure » Tue, 03 Dec 2013 09:37:08

Here is an update as it looks like the vote was not brought up yesterday.


Gun Owners of America

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Legislative Time Bomb Could Retroactively Outlaw the Possession of Virtually all Guns with Non-Metal parts
Wood stocks could be prohibited

“We look at [the plastic gun ban] as an infringement,” said GOA’s Erich Pratt. “The law does nothing to keep undetectable guns out of the hands of criminals [who have] no regard for the law in the first place.” -- The Hill, November 28, 2013

URGENT ACTION: The House did not take up the plastic gun ban yesterday. So please continue contacting your legislators -- especially your Representative -- with today’s new message. The House will most certainly vote today. If you can, please call your Rep. at 202-225-3121.

Gun ban would be mischief for an anti-gun administration.

Sometimes it takes decades for a poorly-drafted anti-gun law to rise up and bite you. The 1968 gun ban for "mental defectives" sat around for 25 years before an anti-gun Clinton administration decided to use it to disarm more than 150,000 law-abiding veterans who had never been before a court.

The "plastic gun ban" is another massive time bomb sitting in federal law. And it will be reauthorized (for as much as a decade) in the next two weeks -- if we don't stop it.

Unless it existed before December 10, 1988, the plastic gun ban absolutely bans any gun that is not as detectable in a "walk-through metal detector" as a Security Exemplar [18 U.S.C. 922(p)(1)(A) and (6)].

The “Security Exemplar” is a piece of metal that the ATF uses to calibrate how much steel a manufacturer needs to put in the gun to make it beep in the metal detector. Other than the fact that it has to contain 3.7 ounces of steel and look sort of like a gun, anti-gun Attorney General Eric Holder can determine, by regulatory fiat, the characteristics of the Exemplar.

He can determine whether you test guns with a "top flight" metal detector -- or a crummy one. He can determine how many times (or thousands of times) a gun has to pass in order not to be banned.

In addition, every "major component" of every firearm has to pass through an airport x-ray in such a way that its shape is "accurately" depicted [18 U.S.C. 922(p)(1)(B)].

The statute contains a list of parts of guns which are definitely "major components." But is that list exclusive? If we didn't have a President and an Attorney General who have violated and perverted the law again and again and again, we might be able to conclude that it was exclusive. But the language is not so definitive as to protect us against an administration intent on destroying us.

So what if Holder determines that a wooden stock is a “major component”?

According to an expert we consulted, a wooden stock would produce an x-ray image which is "fuzzier" (less "accurate") than a metal gun would produce. Interestingly, a wholly plastic gun would also produce an x-ray image, according to this expert, although it would be "fuzzier" (less "accurate") than that of a metal gun.

So, for those Republicans who are talking about locking us into an extension of this statute that could ban lots of guns ... tell them, “please don't.”;

A couple of more points:

* It is simply not true that, if this statute is allowed to lapse, "killers can freely go into airports, courthouses, and schools to commit mass murder and mayhem."

X-ray machines will pick up the images of plastic guns. And, unfortunately for the safety of the inhabitants, guns in airports, courthouses, and schools will remain illegal under 18 U.S.C. 922(q) and 930.

* And it is foolish to assume that the Jared Loughners and Adam Lanzas of the world -- intent on committing mass murder -- would somehow be deterred by a plastic gun ban. That genie is already out of the bottle.

* Finally, it appears that New York Senator Chuck Schumer would like to take the potentially significant gun ban and expand it even further.

Thursday, November 21, Schumer tried to pass an expansion though the U.S. Senate by unanimous consent without even usual a standard Senate procedure for notifying other senators, called hot-lining. Almost two weeks AFTER HE TRIED TO PASS IT, the text of the Schumer bill was still not available.

But we do know that Schumer has been working all year to expand the plastic gun ban to shut down every gun manufacturer in America who makes guns using a mold. We also know that Schumer has been trying to extend it even more explicitly to gun parts and magazines -- although it's hard to see what danger a plastic magazine would pose.

ACTION: Click here to contact your senators and representative. Tell them to oppose this effort to ban guns with wooden stocks. Call him or her at 202-225-3121.
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